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Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by oezi on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:11AM (#49178795)
I would be really interested to learn what the default advice for retail investors is across countries.

In Germany the consensus is MSCI World or FTSE All-World ETFs.

I believe in the US most advice goes to VTSAX (US Total Market), VOO (S&P500) and maybe QQQ (NASDAQ100) which means only US stocks.

What gets recommended in other countries?

Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by khuey on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:21AM (#49178843)
Generally the default fund in a decent 401(k) (employer managed but largely employee funded retirement plan) will be a "target date retirement fund" that contains a mix of equities and bonds according to the expected risk tolerance of someone at that age, and generally the equity component is also split between US and foreign equities.

e.g. Fidelity's fund for people planning to retire around 2050 https://fundresearch.fidelity.com/mutual-funds/summary/31579...

Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by oezi on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:42AM (#49179360)
3% less annual returns than the S&P500 over 10 years and the entire fund lifetime. That's a considerable difference.
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by khuey on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @10:36AM (#49183639)
Yes, diversification results in lower returns than investing in just the best performing asset class.
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by eudamoniac on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @10:37AM (#49183662)
That's what happens when you are in a 10+ year bull market. That doesn't mean 100% US equity allocation is a good idea starting now.
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by itake on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:29AM (#49179278)
target date funds always confused me, b/c they don't account for the rest of my portfolio.

My IRA/401(k) actually has close to 100% cash/bonds to minimize annual taxable impact and the rest of my portfolio is equities.

Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by khuey on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @10:34AM (#49183599)
Many people don't have a "rest of their portfolio".
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by eudamoniac on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @10:39AM (#49183675)
There is no annual taxable impact in a 401k nor IRA
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by itake on Thursday August 06, 2026 @12:32AM (#49192465)
exactly, which is why your 401k/IRA include your bond allocations and your taxable account house your equities.

Assuming a portfolio with $100k in 401k and $100k in taxable and targeting 80/20 stock/bonds, your 401k should be 60/40k and taxable should be 100/0.

Target date funds would have 80/20 in both 401k and taxable accounts.

Target date funds assume your 401k is your only retirement savings vehicle.

Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by eudamoniac on Thursday August 06, 2026 @01:07PM (#49199424)
I understand why you'd say bonds in tax-advantaged accounts and equities outside, but I don't know why you would put cash in the former. Unless by cash you mean money market funds or similar. But even still, qualified equity dividends are yielding more these days than bond interest to the extent that the total tax is usually higher, so you might still prefer to reverse what you said.
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by itake on Friday August 07, 2026 @12:00AM (#49205767)
My equities are highly concentrated in tech (which tends to either not pay dividends or prefers stock buy backs). The rest of my equities is VTI (~1% dividend) and VXUS (~2.3% dividends).

When I say cash, I meant value stored in money market and $SGOV. I'm actually experimenting with using my 401k/ira to invest in private equity (VC) funds, so I am holding cash (money market and $SGOV) in those accounts to ensure I have the capital for capital calls.

Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by amarcheschi on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:06AM (#49179137)
Italy - vwce or any all world

This of course if you're doing by yourself, banks definitely won't recommend that but some other bullshit fund with high costs and poor performances

Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by rafram on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:14AM (#49178819)
Disagree on that being the advice in the US. Most basic investment advice (and target-date funds) will use a three-fund portfolio containing US, ex-US, and bonds.
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by oezi on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:45AM (#49179377)
In Europe bonds are mostly out of fashion because they pay very little or have considerable risk of default. At least for retail investors.
Re:After Losses, Retail Investors Flock to 3x Leverage as 2x... by rafram on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @10:03AM (#49183071)
You normally add bonds when nearing retirement.