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Re:LLMs reward expertise by roncesvalles on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @12:43AM (#49164427)
>We've seen plenty of examples of apps successfully vibe coded by non technical people, including apps making real revenue.

Have we? Or is this just something that people say now, without citation?

Re:LLMs reward expertise by wongarsu on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @03:58AM (#49165595)
Maybe people don't cite specific apps because they like their jobs, and outing apps as vibe-coded is still seen as negative

I personally know of two completely vibe-coded large apps in my professional environment. One by a non-technical manager, made to solve his needs, then sold to customers. Initial development went along great, but by now velocity has greatly slowed down. Also took a lot of engineering hours (of actual software developers) to get permission management from "chaotic and ineffective" to passable. It's still worse than what you would have gotten by just using a couple sentences of the right technical language at the start. Deployment is also a bit of a nightmare. All in all, anything beyond the first rollout phase was delayed by months. Honestly it should have stayed as a prototype that then gets rebuilt from the ground up. But still, it is a real app, making real revenue

The other example was vibe-coded by a software engineer in his free time. Works pretty well, doesn't have too many bugs. Makes some revenue, but a lot less. Solving manager problems just sells better.

Re:LLMs reward expertise by RileyJames on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @04:30AM (#49165797)
> Honestly it should have stayed as a prototype that then gets rebuilt from the ground up.

And that’s a natural process for many products. In the journey from discovery to prototype to MVP to product, it should be rebuilt multiple times.

Particularly with LLM’s to assist, the process of rebuilding from a new context and understanding of the desired goal requires even less effort.

The hardest part is managing any real users, their expectations, and any data / workflows they’ve come to require from what came before.

Re:LLMs reward expertise by Shorel on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:23AM (#49167036)
I vibecoded a Postman/Insomnia API tester program, and I use it everyday at work now.

But as another software engineer, I remove myself from that comparison, because the idea is to find out if a non technical person can do the same, that's the definition of vibe coding.

Re:LLMs reward expertise by chrisjj on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @07:34AM (#49181379)
> Maybe people don't cite specific apps because they like their jobs, and outing apps as vibe-coded is still seen as negative

... or IDs apps as cr*p is still seen as negative.

Re:LLMs reward expertise by mettamage on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @01:49AM (#49164724)
A friend of mine, non-technical, is not making money with his apps. But he's creating a street fighter like game. Just for fun.

So there's that.

He can't exactly release it because he uses a lot of copyrighted stuff. It's also meant only for himself. Though, I've been asking if I can play it, it looks fun.

Re:LLMs reward expertise by 0xffff2 on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @02:55AM (#49165136)
I think we desperately need to start differentiating between "is creating" and "has created". I have a couple of "am creating" projects too, but their proximity to "have created" is directly proportional to how much effort and expertise _I_ am bringing, not so much related to the AI's contribution.
Re:LLMs reward expertise by NichoPaolucci on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @07:28AM (#49167097)
I run into this quite a bit. We have users generating MANY apps at our small company (30 FTE), entirely with Claude. It's great to see people mess around and tinker. It's NOT great to see someone with a GH repo that has 750+ commits for what would be MAYBE 1 week of a developers time. SO these are non-developers now spending hours and hours working on software that is probably going to get thrown out.

We're in this spot where we don't know when to cut our losses on projects like this. (Is it even viable as production software? Does it currrently do what it's supposed to, or are they adding new features? Is there a return on continued development efforts?)

None of these apps they have built are seeing any major usage, and I don't think a single one is what I would call "done" (There was a gold rush stage at the beginning of 2026 where senior leadership wanted everyone to spend some time messing around with Claude). Unfortunately, they never told anyone when to stop messing around with Claude, so the ROI is ever diminishing.

Re:LLMs reward expertise by mettamage on Sunday August 09, 2026 @10:45AM (#49231904)
Update: he's done with it now. It's quite a fun game. He has some game balancing to do still as I button mashed through the 2D fighting game.
Re:LLMs reward expertise by threatofrain on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @12:52AM (#49164468)
I’m afraid this isn’t surprising anymore.
Re:LLMs reward expertise by fragmede on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @01:01AM (#49164493)
Re:LLMs reward expertise by tmikaeld on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @01:16AM (#49164578)
The problem with lovable, from someone with insider knowledge, is that many of the apps existed even before appearing there and where ported to the platform to ride the hype wave.
Re:LLMs reward expertise by shepherdjerred on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @01:38AM (#49164664)
Wow, I am not sure that I want my safety app to be videcoded by someone without experience
Re:LLMs reward expertise by mikasisiki on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @03:10AM (#49165239)
I don’t think we’re talking about this kind of website.
Re:LLMs reward expertise by colonelspace on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @12:51AM (#49164462)
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Re:LLMs reward expertise by jojobas on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @01:18AM (#49164590)
That was kinda harnessed and prompted by a team of security experts, so there's that.