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Re:After the AI Crash by contagiousflow on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:48AM (#49097495)
What is inevitable?
Re:After the AI Crash by N_Lens on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:50AM (#49097522)
The pacing and the prolonging, obviously!
Re:After the AI Crash by mosura on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:53AM (#49097561)
Artificial intelligence.

If humans are machines executing on some medium eventually it will be possible to emulate them on some other medium. Believing otherwise requires some essentially religious convictions on the existence of the soul or similar.

Re:After the AI Crash by jbreckmckye on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @10:00AM (#49097651)
We already have human intelligence. Creating new humans is easy (and fun)

The only reason to emulate human intelligence is to capture it, exploit it, and reduce the negotiating power of those who have it naturally. Anyone who wants this is not a friend of human beings

Re:After the AI Crash by Marha01 on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @10:08AM (#49097774)
> Creating new humans is easy (and fun)

This could not be further from the truth.

Creating a new educated, competent human takes ~25 years, and significant costs and resources.

AGI can be just copy-pasted at essentially no cost. Even a robot that is mass-produced for tens of thousands of dollars is still much less expensive and takes much less time to make than a competent human.

Re:After the AI Crash by la64710 on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @11:45AM (#49099009)
But it is more than just fun , it gives purpose to our existence … pardon me but it is idiotic to look at bringing up a child so objectively.
Re:After the AI Crash by Marha01 on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @11:56AM (#49099166)
Yes, but I think we should separate human economic value from the true purpose of our existence. If AI can replace us in economically valuable tasks, we will have no choice but to do so. The economic value part should be looked at objectively.
Re:After the AI Crash by memonkey on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @06:48PM (#49104099)
What is the true purpose of our existence?
Re:After the AI Crash by Marha01 on Thursday July 30, 2026 @12:35AM (#49106153)
That is a very good question, perhaps without an objective answer. But it's definitely not a 9-5 job, at least for me.
Re:After the AI Crash by goatlover on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @11:34PM (#49105856)
Except there's already billions of humans with millions becoming competent humans every year. Also the machine analogy breaks down in some ways for biological organisms. It's messier, more complex and organisms weren't designed for a purpose. There is no software humans are running. That's just a metaphor for whatever the brain & nervous system (throughout the body) does.
Re:After the AI Crash by anonymous_sorry on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @10:54AM (#49098350)
I do mostly agree with you, but...

> Creating new humans is easy

If you did a survey I suspect agreement with this statement would be rather bimodal.

Re:After the AI Crash by jbreckmckye on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @11:27AM (#49098784)
That's fair. It starts easy, then gets difficult.
Re:After the AI Crash by contagiousflow on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:57AM (#49097618)
Sure, but that only stands if you believe the only purpose of human intelligence is for economic benefit.
Re:After the AI Crash by Marha01 on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @10:10AM (#49097797)
That does not follow. The argument about the possibility of artificial intelligence makes absolutely no claims about the purpose of human or artificial intelligence. One is a claim about "is", another is a claim about "ought".
Re:After the AI Crash by jplusequalt on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:59AM (#49097644)
>Believing otherwise requires some essentially religious convictions on the existence of the soul or similar.

My doubt has nothing to do with religion.

I believe we'll never be able to harness the amount of technology required to replicate human intelligence.

Re:After the AI Crash by SpicyLemonZest on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:56AM (#49097605)
Technological changes to economic conditions in general are not possible to opt out of forever. I'm not an AI accelerationist myself, because I think there are severe risks beyond the merely economic, but the auto industry is a good example of where many countries are engaging in what one might call "EV accelerationism". In principle you don't have to, it's possible to let them roll out only to the extent that the market naturally demands, but if you know internal combustion engines will become a niche hobbyist thing by 2050 there's a lot of value in making that transition faster and intentional.
Re:After the AI Crash by phoronixrly on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:50AM (#49097518)
That all persons doing intellectual work die of hunger as they cannot find a job. At least that's how I understand what the parent commenter is implying. They say that all people doing intellectual work better die quickly so they don't suffer a long 'transition period' to inevitably being dead of hunger.
Re:After the AI Crash by jbreckmckye on Wednesday July 29, 2026 @09:53AM (#49097562)
Wonderful. And these people call themselves utilitarians too. God / Buddha / Allah / Batman, save me from their kindness!