Re:Kimi Linear: An Expressive, Efficient Attention Architecture
by nemomarx on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @12:31PM
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Give up IP for end users and people will be pretty okay with giving up on IP for ai companies. You can't have different standards for special companies though.
Re:Kimi Linear: An Expressive, Efficient Attention Architecture
by fwip on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @04:11PM
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> So either nobody cares about IP (at the very last in this context) and any AI company can just do whatever with data, or Chinese companies have to be held up to scrutiny.
Anthropic is currently angling for a "IP restrictions for China but not for me" la-la land scenario. If they were instead arguing for either of the choices you said, it wouldn't be hypocritical.
Re:Kimi Linear: An Expressive, Efficient Attention Architecture
by idiotsecant on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @12:43PM
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why should western AI companies be held to different standards than Chinese ones? Neither of them are your buddy.
Re:Kimi Linear: An Expressive, Efficient Attention Architecture
by creato on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @02:09PM
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They shouldn't be. But the point is, they are. OpenAI and Anthropic are paying many rights holders for access to their data (reddit, NYT, etc.).
So distillation, among other things, allows Chinese labs to indirectly benefit from these arrangements at no cost to them.
Re:Kimi Linear: An Expressive, Efficient Attention Architecture
by trollbridge on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @03:13PM
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Oh really - how much are individual Redditors getting paid?
No, it's perfectly reasonable once you get down to reality.
China is not going to care about IP. That's just a fact. So either nobody cares about IP (at the very last in this context) and any AI company can just do whatever with data, or Chinese companies have to be held up to scrutiny.
We don't have the privilege to be able to hold western companies to higher ethical, legal, and environmental standards and not risk competitiveness.
That there is a whole lot of people right now who insist on doing above and still somehow praise China at every turn is something historians or news outlets will have to make sense of in some 5 years time.