GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publicly this Thursday

Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by jychang on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @02:08AM (#48828145)

This is because GPT-5.6 is just a more posttrained version of GPT-5.5, not a bigger model than GPT-5.5. It's not like how Mythos is bigger than Opus.

GPT-5.6 --------> GPT-5.6 Sol

GPT-5.6-mini ---> GPT-5.6 Terra

GPT-5.6-nano ---> GPT-5.6 Luna

Two important things to note, if you want to verify what I say/correct me:

GPT-5.6 Terra actually scores worse than GPT-5.5 on many benchmarks. It's not GPT-5.5 trained with more compute; it's basically GPT-5.6-mini that's been distilled from GPT-5.6 full size. Remember, GPT-5.4-mini had almost the same benchmarks as GPT-5.2 after all.

Opus 4.8 runs at ~90 tokens per second. Fable 5 runs at ~40 tokens per second on from Anthropic, because it's a bigger/slower model. A few days after the release, when the dust dies down, look at how many tokens/second GPT-5.6 Sol is running at. I will bet it's the about same as GPT-5.5, and not half the speed. (OpenAI is not incentivized to slow down the model for paying customers). But the model tokens/sec will be a big clue- if OpenAI is charging more money for the same sized model or not.

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by sk4rekr0w on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @02:25AM (#48828268)

bigger doesn't mean better, chill out

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by mnicky on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @03:46AM (#48828844)

That's true but size of LLMs has been strongly correlated with their "intelligence".

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by cyanydeez on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @07:10AM (#48830421)

not just that, but the entire industry spend several years seeking investment on the "pure" idea that they just need more compute and more parameters to reach AGI.

And the "business" obvious is still doing that but the science and implementation has be realizing that this just isn't true. They're not getting AGI out of a single LLM by itself.

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by benterix on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @07:21AM (#48830496)

They clearly know it but have to pretend otherwise to keep the money flowing.

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by cyanydeez on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @07:48AM (#48830688)

right, but the business arm will always be dominant. I see what Chinese models are doing as the same as japanese car models in the 80s: producing smaller, more efficient products that address the realities of the "total addressable market" that no business model would support. They're, unfortunately, providing public value where the US and Europe used to tread.

There's a lot to make efficient, but it should be clear to everyone that just throwing compute at larger models isn't going to magically make it rain.

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by satvikpendem on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @03:51AM (#48828882)

In this case, it does actually.

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by cbg0 on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @04:44AM (#48829299)

> This is because GPT-5.6 is just a more posttrained version of GPT-5.5, not a bigger model than GPT-5.5.

What is this very confident assumption based on?

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by satvikpendem on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @05:18AM (#48829581)

If it were fully trained from scratch, you'd expect to see a major version bump. The other point releases have been fine tunes or post trains.

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by CjHuber on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @06:29AM (#48830136)

but 5.5 was also no major version bump

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by vorticalbox on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @01:18PM (#48834577)

do we know that Mythos is in fact a bigger model then opus?

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Re:GPT-5.6 Sol, along with Terra and Luna, will launch publi... by flawn on Wednesday July 08, 2026 @08:37PM (#48839431)

Also tokens/sec are not only dependent on parameter size, so that is kind of a brittle theory.

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