Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by spwa4 on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @08:48AM
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But ... the alternative is that the government actually pays a bit of money to fix the situation! To support their solutions. To actually develop them for enough devices. To secure them ... Plus the services the government made are way more invasive than the Google/Apple ones.
In addition to the money, actually using them would be hundreds of times more complex, and they don't have the provisions Google has, for example accessibility and security services (like actually stopping people stealing accounts on a large scale). All of this can be done, easily even, but it isn't. Politicians don't want to.
https://www.itsme-id.com/business/platform/identification
https://france-identite.gouv.fr/
https://english.rekenkamer.nl/latest/news/2023/03/29/digital...
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by intrasight on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:55AM
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I just dont buy the argument that it would be that expensive for the governments to provide certified keychain fobs that provide hardware based identification.
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by wqaatwt on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @11:07AM
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That was an option for the past 15+ tears at least in some EU countries. Its just not very convenient (garbage tier software they bought didn’t help either).
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by nradov on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @11:30AM
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It's pretty expensive to deal with all of the technical support and identity verification work when people lose their devices and need to have credentials reset.
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by lokar on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @11:35AM
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How do the apps bootstrap identity? Do they just use Apple/google (that seems really bad), or do they have you do some verification and input a token into the app somehow?
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by deaux on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @02:07PM
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It's even more expensive to have your country's digital ID held hostage by the US or its big tech players.
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by haagch on Wednesday July 01, 2026 @04:16AM
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Here in Germany everyone who has an ID card, which is basically everyone, already has a secure chip for this purpose.
Re:European digital ID wallets are a gift to Google and Apple
by WaitWaitWha on Tuesday June 30, 2026 @09:06AM
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or, not force people into mandatory digital ID wallets at all.
It's also the fact that it forces each citizen to pay a few hundred Euros to companies which then campaign against their very rights.
Citizens get no support of any kind in case of issues, and has to enter a contractual agreement which is ridiculously asymmetrical, where the company has little to no responsibility of any kind, but has very ample rights to track the other party in extremely creepy ways.