Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by colejohnson66 on Saturday June 27, 2026 @10:38AM
(#48698688)
That's what the various string theory proponents start from. There's "too many" different subatomic particles, so there surely must be something smaller that they're composed of?
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by Noaidi on Saturday June 27, 2026 @10:58AM
(#48698859)
How long can you break something apart until you cannot any longer? The things we are breaking apart are illusions in a sense. There will always be a smaller particle because that is what we are looking for.
When we understand that everything that we see is a manifestation of a probability wave, then we will understand everything is a wave and end these foolish experiments.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by GroksBarnacles on Saturday June 27, 2026 @11:10AM
(#48698950)
Do you have a meaningful quantitative explanation with some math we can start building tech on, or will that require some... experiments?
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by krapp on Saturday June 27, 2026 @11:00AM
(#48698872)
I'll be sure to inform all of the physicists that @Noaidi on Hacker News has solved physics and that they can go home.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by dpark on Sunday June 28, 2026 @11:10AM
(#48708018)
Why are you linking that page? Are you stating that you are Vlatko Vedral?
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by Noaidi on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:19PM
(#48708747)
No it was just a quick post for a reference.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by rolph on Saturday June 27, 2026 @03:34PM
(#48701021)
planck scale is the theoretical limit to disassembly.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by Noaidi on Saturday June 27, 2026 @04:08PM
(#48701271)
If something cannot be reduced, does it exist as an entity?
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by rolph on Saturday June 27, 2026 @06:57PM
(#48702577)
something that cant be reduced would be the only entity, all other things are assemblages of that entity, the problem of variability occurs, if you can observe at the scale of absolute fundamental structure, how can difference occur?
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by Noaidi on Sunday June 28, 2026 @09:09AM
(#48706971)
Maybe it’s not the thing that is different, maybe it’s our minds that create difference?
And by difference, I mean, establish boundaries between objects.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by rolph on Sunday June 28, 2026 @11:45PM
(#48714546)
you suggesting that there is a continuity of spacetime rather than a pixelation, which is perfectly valid, the whole problem with planck units is that they are extrapolations, just like the infinity or the point particle, they are mathematical extremes.
the geometric structure of spacetime at planck scale is problematic, considering how you might visualise a planck polyhedron so that no space is defined in less than whole planck units i.e. all dimensions of length are whole numbers.
you have to do some topological trickery to make a discreet planck volume that works.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by eggn00dles on Saturday June 27, 2026 @11:02PM
(#48703944)
its only the limit we can probe things. just because we can’t measure something doesnt mean nature cant operate at that scale
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by rolph on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:13AM
(#48704270)
[delayed]
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by eggn00dles on Sunday June 28, 2026 @08:31AM
(#48706733)
probe something smaller than a planck unit and nature operates by creating a black hole
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by rolph on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:49PM
(#48709082)
there is no smaller than a planck unit.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by eggn00dles on Sunday June 28, 2026 @05:39PM
(#48711945)
if you want to ignore general relativity or pretend black holes dont exist, sure.
Re:How Many Elementary Particles Are There, Really?
by rolph on Sunday June 28, 2026 @11:29PM
(#48714458)
if you want to ignore the maximum energy content of space below schwarzchild radius of one planck length go ahead, there is no curvature that will bend space that tightly, and GR doesnt apply at that level