News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by lyime on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:39AM (#486957)
Wow. It feels like just yesterday I signed up for HN. YC:HN is priceless for me. Thank you YC and thanks to this community.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by unalone on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:48AM (#486967)
Seconding this. HN community, you rock. All of you. Even the people that start heated debates. (Hell, especially the people who start heated debates.)

Happy birthday!

Re:Hacker News is 2 by axod on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:25AM (#487089)
Agreed. It's a lovely little oasis of healthy conversation, and friendly help/advice.

Long may it continue :)

Re:Hacker News is 2 by chris_l on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:46AM (#487012)
Actually it feels to me like it's been around for much longer than 2 years... don't know what that means though
Re:Hacker News is 2 by dcminter on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:52AM (#487114)
Absolutely. I'd like to add that the killer feature for me (well, aside from the good quality links and discussion) is "noprocrast" and that I'm particularly grateful for the relatively recent removal of the "ignore" link. It's all very much appreciated.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by mixmax on Thursday February 19, 2009 @07:31AM (#487183)
I would say that the killer feature is the users :-)
Re:Hacker News is 2 by rkowalick on Thursday February 19, 2009 @11:30AM (#487440)
While I'm not much of a coder, I come to this place because there a lots of interesting articles and insightful comments. It's refreshing to see such an intelluctual crowd of people on the internet for once.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by run4yourlives on Thursday February 19, 2009 @12:05PM (#487496)
Since nobody seems to really be saying it I will:

Paul, thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort to create a website I really value. I've learned a lot over the last little bit and continue to do so.

Job well done.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by vaksel on Thursday February 19, 2009 @10:54AM (#487379)
How about a hand for the moderators? They are the guys who keep the quality of this site up. Without them, this would soon just be another clone of reddit
Re:Hacker News is 2 by alecco on Thursday February 19, 2009 @12:59PM (#487579)
Was it necessary to bash Reddit?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by falsestprophet on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:14PM (#487951)
No, but I would like to take this opportunity to do it anyway. Reddit has become a den of melodramatic ideologues and thoughtless iconoclasts. I'm no longer a supporter.

Here are some intellectually unflattering sample headlines from the front page right now:

4. Like NASCAR Drivers, Our Politicians Should Wear Uniforms Clearly Stating Their Sponsors

5. Oh, Canada. “When statements are said that God probably does not exist, this is an implied statement of hatred towards all those who do believe that God exists.”

13. The head of the DEA spent more than $123,000 to charter a private jet to fly to Bogota, Colombia, last fall instead of taking one of the agency's 106 planes.

15. PWNED!!!

19. Citigroup, which lost $18 Billion Last year, laid off 39,000 and got a $52 Billion Govt Bailout still provides perks to directors and former CEOs such as airplanes, helicopters, and drivers costing millions of dollars per year.

20. Cousin of 9/11 Hijacker Arrested as Israeli Spy

21. Fuck the media. CBS Evening News only points to $4600 from Stanford to Obama as well as showing Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. No mention of McCain's $28K or any other Republican. (1:55 video)

22. Ten years. Ten FUCKING years you've been following me. And for what? PIKACHU?

23. Woman Blinded By Acid Requests That Her Attacker Be Blinded With Drops Of Acid In Each Eye. Iranian Court Accomodates Her.

25. Giant rat caught in China

Re:Hacker News is 2 by Herring on Thursday February 19, 2009 @08:22PM (#488139)
Have you looked at the subreddits? I spend a lot of time in /programming/ & I find that it has much better articles than HN. Or maybe it's just me, I'm more interested in code than startups.

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/

The reddit RSS feed is also considerably better & I find that invaluable.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by jon_dahl on Thursday February 19, 2009 @11:25PM (#488307)
I used to swear by programming.reddit.com, until the discussions went the way of reddit.com. Whatever can be said for link quality, I find the discussions here 100x better.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by allenbrunson on Friday February 20, 2009 @03:30AM (#488495)
reddit was the beginning. it was seeded by the ycombinator crowd, and it was cool. then the number of users increased, and the noise was gaining on the signal. being a for-profit company, they valued new users more than civility.

realizing that the writing was on the wall, pg created hacker news. it started off just like reddit, but with different priorities.

it's sad that reddit has become what it has, but it's run by a company with profit motives. most of us would have probably done the same thing, had we been in their shoes.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by vaksel on Thursday February 19, 2009 @01:03PM (#487585)
thats what everyone compares to
Re:Hacker News is 2 by c1sc0 on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:20AM (#487085)
714 days here, karma 117 and I couldn't be happier: this place is special, let's keep it that way, happy birthday to us! wiiiii ! what kind of birthday gift do you give to a website?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by brandonkm on Thursday February 19, 2009 @11:08AM (#487403)
> what kind of birthday gift do you give to a website?

Probably a really sweet submission. Like "new web framework lightspeed lisp screencast by Paul Graham on Justin.tv".

Re:Hacker News is 2 by rokhayakebe on Thursday February 19, 2009 @01:56PM (#487657)
689 days for a non-techie hanging with geeks. What is it like?

Well, participating (silently) in conversations between the advantages of one programming language/tool over another.

Reading some of the most thoughtful comments from users who clearly seem to know what they are talking about.

Experimenting with new web startups that launched here for the first time that are eager to get feedback.

Getting/giving advices on what to do and what not to do to achieve success in different fields.

Being constantly reminded that smart people who want to impact are everywhere.

Still don't know how to program, but I am loving HN. If I had to have one digital home HN would be the IT.

Thanks to every user, moderator, to the founder and to myself for mingling with smarter individuals.

HBHN

Re:Hacker News is 2 by wheels on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:35PM (#487707)
There was so a missed opportunity for a nerd joke here:

Hacker News is 10!

Re:Hacker News is 2 by kqr2 on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:45AM (#487010)
Here's a link to the oldest page I could find on the wayback machine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20070221033032/http://news.ycombi...

Re:Hacker News is 2 by mseebach on Thursday February 19, 2009 @06:50AM (#487149)
Re:Hacker News is 2 by bd on Thursday February 19, 2009 @07:52PM (#488110)
22 points by pg 864 days ago | 16 comments | flag

Wait, I sense a disturbance in the Force:

  2x365+1=731 < 864
What was HN doing 133 days before being born? And who are those mysterious elders with accounts "created:864 days ago"?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by timf on Thursday February 19, 2009 @08:18PM (#488133)
Re:Hacker News is 2 by bayareaguy on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:04PM (#487666)
Despite 14x growth, the character of the site has remained intact. So far this experiment seems to be working.

I'm not sure what counts as character and this is obviously subjective but my personal feeling is that HN's quality has taken a slight hit in the past year. It doesn't seem as unique as it once was and many of the topics that make it to the front page seem to be more formulaic. Furthermore many newcomers seem to post the same things that were raised here previously. I've lost track of the number of topics about hosting providers, credit card processing and the like. Also with the increased volume it's been hard to make effective use of the "new" page. Odd things that may interest me that don't quickly get enough attention are lost faster.

Unfortunately I predict growth and network effects will speed up this trend and 2 years from now HN will likely be much less interesting as the HN of a year or two ago.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by herval on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:43AM (#487007)
2 years and I'm still so far from 100 points of 'karma'... What a shame!

Happy birthday, Hax0rs!

Re:Hacker News is 2 by rms on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:32AM (#486950)
Happy birthday.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by critic on Thursday February 19, 2009 @04:20AM (#487041)
RMS, is that you?

I came here to say that I really like the design of this web site (despite of what some others say), but the stability seems lacking sometimes. The site is often inaccessible. I was going to suggest reimplementing everything in ASP.NET and VB.NET, but in RMS's presence, I don't dare.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by patio11 on Thursday February 19, 2009 @04:56AM (#487068)
As a very helpful comment once put it:

On HN, dhh is DHH but rms is not RMS.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=412440

Re:Hacker News is 2 by critic on Thursday February 19, 2009 @12:31PM (#487537)
OK then, reimplement everything in ASP.NET!

DHH, the Ruby guy? Sorry about posting that Lua vs Ruby benchmark link.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by icey on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:21PM (#487687)
I can't tell if you're trolling or serious.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. It won't be rewritten in ASP.Net because of this: http://arclanguage.org/

Re:Hacker News is 2 by critic on Thursday February 19, 2009 @08:37PM (#488148)
I know about Arc. I'm half-joking about .NET, and I'm serious about the rest.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by CalmQuiet on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:17AM (#487081)
Congratulations. It was just this new year that I lucked into HN - and it has made a huge difference to this tech-retread (me) as I seek to play catch-up in my hacking education. A great community you've catalyzed!
Re:Hacker News is 2 by kamme on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:58AM (#486979)
Happy birthday!

I'm happy to see that you didn't do any major changes to the look and feel of this website, most sites tend to change for the worse after receiving more and more hits. Good job!

Re:Hacker News is 2 by gcheong on Thursday February 19, 2009 @11:09AM (#487407)
Wow 2 years. It's strange, but I can't really remember how I came to start reading HN. I know I had been reading PG's essays for a while, but there seems to be a gap I can't recall. It's kinda like the way I can't really remember when I started using Google for all my searches, I just kinda naturally assimilated it into my life.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by yan on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:58AM (#486978)
Joining the throng of people congratulating HN and noting how big a part of my technical life it has become.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by jodrellblank on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:40AM (#487103)
HN has completely dominated all other forums I used to read frequently, even the one I pay for membership at and have been hanging around for a decade. Thank you. (I think it's a good addiction).

So, what are your plans for the next year at HN and how can we help with them?

Re:Hacker News is 2 by rodrigo on Thursday February 19, 2009 @09:46AM (#487285)
Thanks pg, cheers to us! This place has grown to be such a great one. Thank you all.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by tomh on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:43AM (#487006)
Happy Birthday! What, only 2?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by muon on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:50AM (#487015)
Oh Time flies! Never noticed that two years have elapsed. Happy Birthday.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by whalesalad on Thursday February 19, 2009 @07:49PM (#488106)
Am I the only one here who first read this as "Hacker News 2" and got all excited for a nanosecond imagining something like beta.news.yc.com with a new design and added features???
Re:Hacker News is 2 by medianama on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:40AM (#486959)
Why is the Alexa rank so low with 22k unique users everyday?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by TomOfTTB on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:46AM (#486964)
Honestly, there's still an argument to be made that compete.com is at least semi accurate. But Alexa is just a lost cause. It simply doesn't even resemble anything accurate anymore.

P.S. Happy Birthday HN

Re:Hacker News is 2 by bd on Thursday February 19, 2009 @10:15AM (#487329)
Actually, I'm surprised it's so high (150,637 as of today).

It means quite a lot of HN visitors (which are not necessarily just registered HN users) have installed Alexa toolbar.

Which is what ultimately Alexa rank mean. It is a huge source of bias - different types of sites have very different likelihood that their visitors would have installed Alexa toolbar.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by jonursenbach on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:09AM (#486982)
Alexa shouldn't be compared to anything because their algorithm is heavily skewed. Use Compete, it's fairly accurate.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by jrockway on Thursday February 19, 2009 @06:55PM (#488069)
Probably because people that install spyware don't program or start their own companies, and hence don't read HN.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by omnivore on Friday February 20, 2009 @12:05AM (#488339)
It's a useful place to get news, but also to get insight from folks who do what I do and it's invaluable in a world filled with noise and static.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by mshafrir on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:12PM (#487674)
HN is my homepage on my desktop, and the first bookmark on my Blackberry. It's really all I need for news that's relevant to me.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by edw519 on Thursday February 19, 2009 @08:44AM (#487235)
A Jug of Wine, a Loaf of Bread, and Hacker News Beside me singing in the Internet Wilderness

Oh, Internet Wilderness were Paradise enow!

(apologies to Omar Khayyam)

Re:Hacker News is 2 by lazyant on Thursday February 19, 2009 @07:53AM (#487207)
491 days here and I still haven't figured out what the user params (like "noprocrast" or "showdead") do, what a noob
Re:Hacker News is 2 by pg on Thursday February 19, 2009 @05:42PM (#487989)
Re:Hacker News is 2 by lazyant on Thursday February 19, 2009 @07:37PM (#488101)
I can't see the link to this anywhere, must be the age
Re:Hacker News is 2 by johngunderman on Thursday February 19, 2009 @08:25PM (#488142)
very bottom of the main page. I have to admit, it wasn't obvious to me either when I first went looking for it.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by lazyant on Friday February 20, 2009 @04:10PM (#489250)
thanks. The FAQ link should be where the question arises (in the user's profile page).
Re:Hacker News is 2 by andrewljohnson on Thursday February 19, 2009 @08:07PM (#488127)
HN made me quit reading Reddit. Thanks HN!
Re:Hacker News is 2 by atog on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:38AM (#487001)
Happy birthday! HN is a great resource.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by rbitar on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:47AM (#486965)
Happy birthday. What, no champagne?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by dualogy on Thursday February 19, 2009 @10:59AM (#487392)
zomg, never realized news was born on my birthday! Best gift I got today! (Well, almost :)

"This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius ♫ Golden living dreams of visions ♪ And the mind's true liberation"... well I'm no mystic but I just love us aquariuses!

Re:Hacker News is 2 by daveambrose on Thursday February 19, 2009 @02:29PM (#487699)
Happy Birthday! My favorite community here. Great people, great ideas, great service!
Re:Hacker News is 2 by dmose on Thursday February 19, 2009 @10:02AM (#487303)
Happy birthday! The only site on the net worth checking multiple times a dayIMO.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by paul7986 on Friday February 20, 2009 @08:14AM (#488639)
Anyone know who are the HN moderators? Are there any these days?
Re:Hacker News is 2 by froo on Thursday February 19, 2009 @06:40AM (#487143)
Happy Birthday to the HN crew. Heres hoping for many many more!
Re:Hacker News is 2 by shailesh on Thursday February 19, 2009 @07:14AM (#487162)
Happy birthday HN and thanks to the HNers; you are wonderful.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by DanielBMarkham on Thursday February 19, 2009 @06:43AM (#487147)
What? No cake?

Congrats on a fun site so far, Paul. Hope it continues.

Re:Hacker News is 2 by pibefision on Thursday February 19, 2009 @06:02AM (#487117)
Congrat's! this is a great resource for all of us
Re:Hacker News is 2 by releasedatez on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:19AM (#486993)
Happy Birthday!
Re:Hacker News is 2 by cdr on Thursday February 19, 2009 @09:27AM (#487267)
Intact? Don't kid yourself.
Re:Hacker News is 2 by thepanister on Thursday February 19, 2009 @03:12AM (#486987)
hmmmmmmmmm

I think that the 14x growth happened because there is a nice atmosphere here that you won't find anywhere...