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Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by moomoo11 on Monday June 22, 2026 @12:23AM (#48625651)
ok but your competition using the latest models has an advantage

not all of us are doing noob shit lol

Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by 59nadir on Monday June 22, 2026 @04:24AM (#48627335)
Heh, if you're using LLMs heavily for work I think odds are pretty good you're doing pretty trivial stuff. It might not be trivial to you, but you're probably just not very good at this.
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by derwiki on Monday June 22, 2026 @09:13AM (#48629687)
Pretty sure the big quant shops heavily use LLM; maybe it’s trivial stuff and they just work 100 hrs/week?
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by 59nadir on Monday June 22, 2026 @01:45PM (#48633364)
Anyone who heavily uses LLMs for their work is pretty obviously ill-equipped for their work, and likely getting even worse at it with time, yes. You can throw around as many "things people from the US worship because they make money" positions/industries as you want. Nevermind that you're "pretty sure". People who both know what LLMs are actually capable of without major issues, plus are already capable enough to do their job don't need to use LLMs heavily, they'll use them for what little they're actually useful for. Only incompetent (or uninterested & incompetent) people lean on them very heavily.

Edit: To clarify what I mean by this:

Anyone who uses LLMs for larger-than-small-module code generation, pretend-not-vibecoding (a.k.a spec-driven development), or outright vibecoding, etc., is using an LLM "heavily", IMO.

The appropriate things to use them for is information retrieval, plus as a basic extra signal in debugging, code understanding, quality checks, and so on.

Also, it's not illegal to be incompetent. Most people were incompetent long before LLMs showed up, it's not some rarity.

Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by moomoo11 on Monday June 22, 2026 @03:19PM (#48634772)
bro go do your tickets lmfao
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by knollimar on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @05:44AM (#48642551)
Is the majority of work not BS gruntwork?

My job has lots of low value stuff that must be done before I get high value tasks, so LLMs let me speed through to that point.

(I use LLMs to spam disposable scripts in a construction environment)

Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by 59nadir on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @07:34AM (#48643418)
If your "disposable scripts" require large-scale code generation, they're probably not "disposable" or "scripts".
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by knollimar on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @08:14AM (#48643784)
Nah I'm in the trivial camp. Just the quantity beats doing it by hand, but the APIs for drafting are a bit esoteric to learn.
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by 59nadir on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @08:35AM (#48644009)
I suspect we agree more than our comments make it seem. There are code generation use cases that make sense for LLMs to do, I'm already with you on that, and I suspect that your situation is one of them.
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by handoflixue on Monday June 22, 2026 @06:06AM (#48628134)
You're being entirely unreasonable. 640 kilobytes of memory was enough for Bill Gates, and yet somehow your special project needs more?
Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by moomoo11 on Monday June 22, 2026 @03:19PM (#48634766)
it's 2026. my work machine is a macbook pro with 64gb ram.

i would rather spend a few hundred or thousands of dollars a month to make way more, than waste time and still lose to people who are using the latest commercial models which are 3 months ahead of the open source.

what are you even talking about?

Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by handoflixue on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @04:15AM (#48641914)
I am jokingly agreeing with you: Bill Gates famously claimed 640 kilobytes of RAM was sufficient for everyone, which felt like a funny parallel to people telling you "open source models are sufficient for everyone"

There's obviously a competitive advantage to having better tools, and I find it amusing/absurd that some people don't get that.

Re:There is minimal downside to switching to open models by moomoo11 on Tuesday June 23, 2026 @12:58PM (#48647883)
my apologies. lol i see now. thank you, i did not intend to be a joke killer lol.