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Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by internet2000 on Sunday June 14, 2026 @12:41PM (#48529366)
Attribution isn't the relevant part. Lying about your lab's capabilities is.
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by Planktonne on Sunday June 14, 2026 @12:50PM (#48529507)
That's also something all the AI companies have been doing.
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by low_tech_love on Sunday June 14, 2026 @03:15PM (#48531471)
They’re using public money to “train” this.
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by dofm on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:07PM (#48529725)
Lying about model capability is right now the lingua franca of the cloud AI business model, almost; they yes-and each other's lies because they are in a position of needing to generate interest, including going as far as needing to trigger regulatory capture.

(It's not news to anyone who has worked in sales-led businesses that salespeople are prone to believing the claims of other salespeople, I guess).

Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by selcuka on Sunday June 14, 2026 @07:08PM (#48533985)
> Lying about model capability is right now the lingua franca of the cloud AI business model

Lying about your lab's capabilities != Lying about model capability

Exaggerating the capabilities of a new model that you've actually trained in press bulletins can be called marketing. Merging two models and claiming that you trained a new model is plain lazy.

Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by vips7L on Sunday June 14, 2026 @02:59PM (#48531221)
Sounds like the whole AI movement.
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by themafia on Sunday June 14, 2026 @03:30PM (#48531666)
It seems to me like the lies are both for the same reason. To capture attention and profits that are not deserved.
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by outside2344 on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:31PM (#48530060)
But the whole game is lying and stealing isn't it?
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by functionmouse on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:01PM (#48529628)
leopards ate my face
Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by adrian_b on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:01PM (#48529632)
I do not see anyone lying.

The model card says:

> Post-trained from Qwen 3.5 397B

The model card also says that they use an inference framework based on "SwiReasoning: Switch-Thinking in Latent and Explicit for Pareto-Superior Reasoning LLMs" by Shi et al.:

https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.05069

So the sources seem properly attributed.

They only claim that what they did to "Qwen 3.5 397B" has improved the LLM, including, as expected, with "strong performance in Portuguese".

Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by petu on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:32PM (#48530077)
That's attribution to Qwen team.

There (is/was) no attribution to Nex team (they've released a model based on Qwen 3.5 397B as well).

As per OP link Nex claims that what Rio team released (so far) is just linear interpolation of weights between Nex and OG Qwen model. With no attribution to Nex and zero signs of Rio doing any training of their own.

Re:Rio de Janeiro's "homegrown" LLM appears to be a merge of... by 00index on Sunday June 14, 2026 @01:28PM (#48530028)
Are you talking about the credit that was just updated an hour ago? lol