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Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by witx on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:19AM (#48500552)
It's by default so you use all those tasty tokens.

Kinda wish there was a deterministic, mostly terse, language to interact with computers

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by sodapopcan on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:30AM (#48500611)
> a deterministic, mostly terse, language

Ah, like some sort of "programming language"? A weird idea, but it could work!

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by giantrobot on Friday June 12, 2026 @06:44AM (#48502363)
Nah, it'll never catch on. We don't have the technology.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by sodapopcan on Friday June 12, 2026 @07:58AM (#48503005)
Obviously I meant within the next 6 to 18 months!
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by Etheryte on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:24AM (#48500581)
It's called C. With all the undefined behavior it's mostly deterministic!
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by anilakar on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:40AM (#48501053)
Look, we're always telling our bosses to stop micromanaging us. UB is just the compiler telling us to stop micromanaging it!
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by witx on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:31AM (#48500617)
Right, because that's the only one. You're a bit rusty on your knowledge
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by zelphirkalt on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:22AM (#48501814)
I see what you did there.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by well_ackshually on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:04AM (#48501670)
Sorry, C isn't mostly terse, it's __builtin_mstly_trs()
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by lelanthran on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:02PM (#48509401)
> It's called C. With all the undefined behavior it's mostly deterministic!

With AI, all programs have undefined behaviour, regardless of language.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by adrianN on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:51AM (#48500706)
Terse and unambiguous seem to be at odds with each other. You might want to look into Lojban and similar constructions.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by drdaeman on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:57AM (#48501177)
Ithkuil's mad morphology allows it to pack a lot of fine detail into very short sentences.

https://ithkuil.net/03_morphology.html

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by UqWBcuFx6NV4r on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:00AM (#48501205)
It’s not.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by witx on Friday June 12, 2026 @04:27AM (#48501412)
It's settled then.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by teaearlgraycold on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:59AM (#48500761)
A lot of users are subsidized (if you're in doubt, consider the wealth of free users).

It's a shotgun approach to answering questions. If it's terse it might only mention 1 of 10 facts it could provide, and that might not be the one you're looking for. So they just say a fuck ton of words and are more likely to meet the needs of everyone asking your question. If they miss it you'll prompt it again and they have to perform a second pass of inference, which costs them more money.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by Perz1val on Friday June 12, 2026 @05:04AM (#48501669)
Kinda, more output tokens usually correlates with better benchmark scores. Ideally LLMs would keep that in their thinking section, then draft a response (what they write currently), then output something short. It'd consume even more tokens, but we wouldn't see that text
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by dannyw on Friday June 12, 2026 @06:04AM (#48502069)
Most modern LLMs (especially frontier ones) are large token hogs because they draft, check, re-draft, the content (whether an output message; or a code diff) sometimes multiple times in the thinking block.

When you see a thinking summary like "Now writing the function..."; the raw thinking is actually writing the function in its internal thinking. Occasionally, the summariser misses and you get to see the raw text from models like Opus.

You can also try an open weight LLM like Qwen3.6 and see something that probably resembles the shape of frontier model thinking in some loose way.

Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by Retr0id on Friday June 12, 2026 @06:59AM (#48502476)
If such a language existed, it would surely take a human years of study to become proficient at it.
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by ska80 on Friday June 12, 2026 @09:26AM (#48503824)
Lisp
Re:AI agent bankrupted their operator while trying to scan DN42 by paradox460 on Friday June 12, 2026 @02:51PM (#48508002)
Loglan?