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Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by cherryteastain on Thursday June 11, 2026 @04:02PM (#48495667)
This logic works only if distilling Claude is the only way to create another SOTA LLM, which is not the case.
Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by sciencejerk on Thursday June 11, 2026 @07:39PM (#48497916)
How do you think the Qwen and MiniMax models perform so similarly to Anthropic frontier models? What is your take then?
Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by _3u10 on Thursday June 11, 2026 @08:42PM (#48498419)
Probably the same reason a Epyc 9965 from hetzner performs just as well as one from AWS for one tenth the cost.

Anthropic is offering a commodity product and trying to convince you it isn’t.

It’s even in the name, it’s a myth and a fable. Never happened doesn’t exist.

Also I believe at least on coding that qwen is now the frontier model, fable is its copy of frontier models. In the same way that the Ferrari Luce is an expensive imitation of a SU7 Ultra.

Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by abletonlive on Thursday June 11, 2026 @11:12PM (#48499452)
> Also I believe at least on coding that qwen is now the frontier model

The delusions people live in just to be a hater.

Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by yeeeloit on Thursday June 11, 2026 @09:34PM (#48498750)
China no. 1?
Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by mcmcmc on Thursday June 11, 2026 @10:58PM (#48499347)
They probably stole all the same copyrighted IP
Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by jackjeff on Friday June 12, 2026 @03:21AM (#48500913)
Well Anthropic did not ask for permission before they distilled copyrighted material.

At least the Chinese have the decency of giving back the model weights and not put BS censorship because “it’s too dangerous”.

Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by cebert on Friday June 12, 2026 @06:56AM (#48502459)
Ask DeepSeek about Tianamen Square and see what happens. The Chinese models have censorship too.
Re:Anthropic apologizes for invisible Claude Fable guardrails by maxdo on Thursday June 11, 2026 @09:55PM (#48498918)
it's not but full path is billions of dollars vs 10-100m range to stay near sota.

the problem is so large scale that distill attempts attribute to a decent share of their token revenue generally.