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Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by Forgeties79 on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @12:51PM (#48463682)
I imagine complying with all kinds of laws and regulations slows releases in some way or another and having none of them would allow people to ship faster, so what makes these EU regulations so distinct? Do what you have to do to comply with the law and release, as always.
Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @12:54PM (#48463750)
> complying with all kinds of laws delays release in some way or another and having none of them would allow people to ship faster, so what makes these EU regulations so distinct?

DMA was designed to be a comprehensive regulatory suite. Lawmakers knew it would be onerous; that’s why it only applies to large companies.

Also, the DMA’s interoperability requirement creates external partners. Let’s face it, Apple’s track record with Siri sucks. If they launch a system and it is crap again, they may not now want an entire ecosystem of folks who will cry foul if they dump the API and start over.

> Do what you have to do to comply with the law and release, as always

Just follow the law. If that means not releasing in a jurisdiction, do that and then don’t tweet snotty things about it. (Siri AI isn’t launching in China, either. I don’t see PMs complaining about that in public.)

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by Forgeties79 on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @01:11PM (#48464032)
No one complains (out loud) about US regulations either. Ultimately it’s about the weight you can throw as well as PR. Probably easier for Apple to make the EU look bad and drag their feet on it. I imagine they’re still not thrilled about the Lightening->USB-C change
Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @01:12PM (#48464055)
> No one complains (out loud) about US regulations either

Everyone constantly does!

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by nkozyra on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @01:54PM (#48464819)
> Everyone constantly does!

In the aggregate, I agree, but in tech things are pretty loose outside of California.

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by Forgeties79 on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @01:53PM (#48464808)
The same way they constantly do and don’t about the Chinese government I’d say.
Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by stouset on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @12:54AM (#48471588)
Apple was literally the first major company to go all-in on USB-C. They shipped entire devices that only had USB-C ports.

If anything, I would wager they were happy about it. They were going to have to do it anyway, and it would inevitably cause friction for users who were already invested in Lightning cables and third-party devices. The EU forcing this just meant they could shift the blame for any negative sentiment onto the EU.

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by Forgeties79 on Wednesday June 10, 2026 @07:19AM (#48474625)
They weren’t all-in or first because they refused to add them to their mobile products until years after everyone else. They fought tooth and nail against integrating it into the iPhone until the EU forced them to. It’s well documented. The MFi program - namely the associated accessories - was very important to them.

Putting USB-C on their laptops in 2016 is a different discussion and it wasn’t a tough decision because none of their computers had lightning integrated into it anyways. If anything we should be asking why they did that and then took 7 years to put them on their phones. They could’ve had one port for literally everything since 2016 and yet the EU had to force them to do it.