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Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by asdff on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @05:42PM (#48301153)
Israel seems trustworthy in the sense that their priorities and aims are abundantly clear to everyone. People are pissed about Israel for Iran right now, but, I mean, there is a reason why they are attacking Iran right now and not Egypt or Turkey. You go about and poke the bear like Iran has done for decades with Israel, you get these outcomes. Egypt tried to poke the bear but that was decades ago and they've since learned there is nothing to gain there.
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by gchamonlive on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @05:49PM (#48301232)
Nobody is buying this narrative of Israel being provoked, because the reaction to the provocation, if there ever was one, is completely disproportional.

Israel had settlements in Palestine way before the conflict outbreak, and nothing explains the systematic targeting of civilian infrastructure on Lebanon but for Israel just going supernova, like Germany and Japan back then.

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by bluGill on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @07:30PM (#48302213)
Israel's faults do not mean they were not provoked. Iran has been sending everything they can to anyone who wants to harm Israel.

What Israel has done is a completely irrelevant to what Iran has been doing.

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by ImPostingOnHN on Thursday May 28, 2026 @01:12AM (#48304827)
> What Israel has done is a completely irrelevant to what Iran has been doing.

It's certainly easy to say "X provoked Y, ignore what Y did first to provoke X".

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by gchamonlive on Thursday May 28, 2026 @03:02PM (#48313816)
I'm sure there was provocation, but we are taking about nations with extremely long recorded memory, so this back and forth of who did what goes back countless generations. It's utterly disastrous to go through this line of thinking when there are millions of civilians either dead or displaced and vulnerable.
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by throwaway27448 on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @05:54PM (#48301281)
Hey that's up to you. I will never vote for a person who supports Israel. Our parents may have been retarded but we don't have to be. I just see a state devoted to slaughtering as many people as they can. Iran looks like a saint compared to them.
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by asdff on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @06:04PM (#48301393)
I'm not supportive of them either. I just don't consider them untrustworthy though. Everything they do is exactly what they've always done since that state was formed. Easily the most predictable nation on earth, Israel. Easy way to get Israel off your back though? Stop funding terrorists like Hamas and Hezbollah that inevitably do something stupid to provoke the Israelis into armed conflict. It is really that simple.
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by throwaway27448 on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @06:08PM (#48301438)
True. Israel begins, Israel assassinates and complains about being targeted by terrorism. Israel begins the loop again. What is more reliable than Israel?

Iran would be a better ally. China would be a better ally. Fucking Russia would be a better ally. Why did we decide to die on the hills of (loosely translated, I guess) mageddo?

But instead our state leans into exterminating people because our PR team was inspired by Goebbels and was trained to hate muslims

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by asdff on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @06:22PM (#48301587)
It is like a modern day state of Prussia. A beachhead and airstrip in the middle east. Weapons manufacturing. Rocket science. A cyber security firm. An intelligence agency. Some of the best in the world at these things. All wrapped up into one. This is why nations like to ally with Israel.

But again, if you don't want problems with Israel don't make problems with Israel. Their populace is militarized like few other and seemingly with a lot of political cohesion. Egypt has learned not to poke the bear. So has Jordan.

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by throwaway27448 on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @08:44PM (#48302771)
A better parallel for prussia would be Rwanda. Israel is a a state determined to exterminate all the peoples in and around it but the Jewish people. You could not build a better parallel of nazi germany if you tried

> But again, if you don't want problems with Israel don't make problems with Israel.

Israel always wanted to dominate palestine and the world doesn't give a fuck, even as they exterminate a whole civilization and stream it to the cucked west. Lebanon's existence is a problem for israel. Syria's existance is a problem for israel. Egypt's existence is a problem for israel. Now they're starting in on jordan. When will the international community start to give a fuck? When will the west grow a fucking backbone and stand up for humanity? Where are all these fucking values we were purportedly forcing on the rest of the world?

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by diffs on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @09:24PM (#48303142)
This is what derangement looks like.
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by throwaway27448 on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @11:49PM (#48304257)
How do you figure?
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by diffs on Thursday May 28, 2026 @09:01AM (#48308375)
Because, your comments are contrafactual and not grounded in reality.

When you make frankly hysterical statements the gist of which is that Israel is uniquely evil (more than Iran which massacred over 30,000 pro-democracy protesters in the span of two days this year, for example), it is clear that you’ve left reality far behind in your rear view-hence derangement.

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by throwaway27448 on Thursday May 28, 2026 @12:51PM (#48311688)
> which massacred over 30,000 pro-democracy protesters

are you really this gullible? the last reliable numbers I saw capped the figures at ~7000, which includes people killed because they were (according to videos I saw) castrating government officials and roasting them over a spit.

Look, I'm as anti-state as any respectable person can be, but I don't see and evidence of protestor massacres.

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by diffs on Saturday May 30, 2026 @08:48PM (#48342055)
In the videos you've seen, were the protesters roasting government officials over a spit, or the officials' detached scrotums? Cause you know, I've done the former, but the latter is really depraved.

Alas I'm not nearly funny enough to properly convey the depth of my amusement here. Who hasn't roasted a government official over a spit here and there though?

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by asdff on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @09:12PM (#48303026)
Nazi Germany? Please. Jordan shot down Iranian drones to protect Israel just recently. 20% of Israeli citizens are Arabs. There are Arabs in the IDF. Lets ground ourself in reality.
Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by throwaway27448 on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @11:49PM (#48304259)
Jordan is our vassal. They will be on israel's dinner plate soon enough though

> There are Arabs in the IDF.

Oh that excuses the blatant genocide the IDF is carrying out then

Re:Canada to order military plane fleet from Sweden in shift... by watwut on Thursday May 28, 2026 @02:14AM (#48305257)
I mean, you dont know much about Iran, I guess. Like, it is a victim in this was and Israel is apartheid state.

None of that makes Iran better, not even now as they still execute daily. And are extremely harsh to own minorities. Oh, and to whole one gender.

Iran looks like saint when you ignore Iran actions. And again, yes, the war was bad decision.