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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by Bender on Monday May 25, 2026 @03:29PM (#48270688)
I agree fundamentally and ideologically but we are past that point. The toothpaste is already out of the tube as they say. There will be restrictions so all I can do is suggest more sensible restrictions that keep the control on the client side and do not share data. Any data shared can and will be abused, leaked, sold, stolen without consequence.
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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by AdrianB1 on Monday May 25, 2026 @03:39PM (#48270780)
I heard that lie about "sensible restrictions" so many times, now I am waiting for "sensible violence", "sensible beating to death" and so on. It is a false argument that "there will be restrictions so all I can do is suggest more sensible restrictions", what you can do is recognize that "no restrictions is an option".

It is like negotiating with a terrorist that wants to kill you and this is his starting position and then he wants to agree on some compromise, like seriously beating you. There is no negotiation.

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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by Bender on Monday May 25, 2026 @03:43PM (#48270808)
No harm in pushing for no restrictions at all. I support this idea.
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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by fc417fc802 on Monday May 25, 2026 @10:02PM (#48274113)
> now I am waiting for "sensible violence"

That exists and is called "self defense", no?

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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by yetta on Monday May 25, 2026 @03:51PM (#48270896)
No we aren't. Also you can put toothpaste in tubes or it wouldn't be in there. Hope that helps!
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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by shevy-java on Monday May 25, 2026 @04:49PM (#48271509)
We are not past the point at all. Any democracy can ultimately decide on laws and regulation. Why would you wish to insinuate otherwise here? California could easily decide to not implement such laws, for instance.

That data leaks out is always a given. So, gather less data. Ideally none. But this is not a discussion about data. This is a discussion as to what state actors think they are allowed to do. It is an attack on private life of people. See the combined strike against VPNs.

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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by hunterpayne on Monday May 25, 2026 @06:48PM (#48272797)
Please remember that there are CA state policies that the voters voted to overturn (in a referendum) and the current CA state government refuses to do so. California voters decided. The California government un-democratically decided to ignore the voters against their own laws they themselves passed.

PS I'm referring to bail reform here.

PPS Just trying to frame what the CA government thinks its allowed to do which is apparently anything it wants.

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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by Bender on Monday May 25, 2026 @05:42PM (#48272004)
We are not past the point at all.

I can only hope you are correct.

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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by hansvm on Monday May 25, 2026 @04:58PM (#48271607)
> toothpaste out of the tube

Obligatory XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2521/

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Re:California moves to exempt Linux from its age-verificatio... by saghm on Tuesday May 26, 2026 @02:35AM (#48275876)
How and when did we decide that we were past that point? I don't remember being consulted
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