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Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by doginasuit on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @03:16PM (#48198035)
They probably never intended to keep serving cheap models. This is a natural way to introduce the squeeze, now that they have people who built services on their API. It makes a lot of sense to have an abstraction layer where the provider doesn't matter. If you are working in Kotlin, Koog is excellent.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by hnarn on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @04:07PM (#48198757)
> now that they have people who built services on their API

People really can’t wait to be the next Zynga

Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by lanthissa on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @04:44PM (#48199354)
switching models is insanely cheap compared to token cost on anything signficant, this is a take so cynical it misses the reality
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by Clueed on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @06:08PM (#48200348)
in any corporate or half compliance-relevant setting switching isn't trivial. new DPA, subprocessor notifications, TIA, procurement review, security questionnaires, plus re-running your evals because prompts don't transfer 1:1. token cost is just one of the line items.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by lanthissa on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @07:05PM (#48200863)
no it really not, even the soggiest bank has multiple api vendors atm.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by alexandre_m on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @08:23PM (#48201480)
I agree with parent. I'm not sure where your stance is coming from.

From what I hear, most enterprise AI deployments are seat-based subscriptions with annual commitments.

Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by opsnooperfax on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @09:56PM (#48202152)
50K FTE global firm. We’re still piloting ChatGPT. AI is a four-letter word and there are ridiculous ceremonies and hundreds of hours of overhead for every trivial use case.

Amusingly, Enterprise credits are more expensive than just paying a zero-commitment on-demand API fee. Personal accounts are still the best value.

Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by p1esk on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @08:35PM (#48201569)
Yes, I work at a 50 person startup and even here switching from CC to codex or cursor would be non-trivial for multiple reasons - not just the annual commitment.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by esperent on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @05:12AM (#48205054)
I don't doubt you but it's amazing how much easier things get when there's another option at 20% of the price, and that's what's going to happen here if these American companies keep trying to squeeze the prices up.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by lanthissa on Thursday May 28, 2026 @07:22AM (#48307413)
my stance is coming from working at one of the soggiest banks and having access to 3 with 2 more coming, and knowing the same is true at 2 of our large competitors.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by opsnooperfax on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @10:00PM (#48202182)
I think the big 3 are cartelizing and starting to ratchet up costs. GPT5.5 is not easily distinguishable from 5.1. I would it be shocked if we hit the ceiling and everyone is quietly positioning for the exit.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by tskj on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @09:33AM (#48207479)
I don't understand why everyone thinks there is a ceiling below human-level intelligence, when we have an existence proof that human-level intelligence is possible.
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by aaronblohowiak on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @01:47PM (#48211377)
for LLMs as implemented today?
Re:Gemini 3.5 Flash by heyodai on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @07:41PM (#48215888)
This is very napkin math, but the human brain has about 100 trillion parameters. Even the biggest models today top out at 10 trillion parameters. I think it's reasonable to assume that models need to be at least an order of magnitude bigger to capture the complexity of human intelligence, and probably a lot more.