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Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by spinel on Friday May 15, 2026 @09:53AM (#48148622)
What's often understated is how much of an advantage the US has because it speaks the language of global commerce and technology, which for the entire 20th century and the first quarter of the 21st has been English. That's huge. It means teenagers reading man pages are reading fluently.

At some point, though, the balance could tip. It's impossible to say, and it'd be irresponsible to try to predict it, but there isn't any reason English is natively superior, any more than French was 150 years ago, or Latin 600 years ago. But it's a major advantage the US has that isn't acknowledged often enough.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:59AM (#48149542)
It's an advantage, but I don't see that changing for a very long time:

1. English became the lingua franca right when the world really became globalized. So everyone from Europe to Asia to Africa has wanted to learn English as a second language for decades. So even if American power went away, I still don't see English falling from its perch. I often say it's really hard for Americans to learn another language because if you go to another country hoping to learn that language, so often you'll find many/most people just want to speak to you in English.

2. The only other power I could see surpassing the US in the mid term is China (and that's in no way guaranteed), but the Chinese language (Mandarin), and especially Chinese writing is inherently more difficult for foreigners to learn. I'd also argue the Chinese writing system is inherently more poorly suited to the digital world.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by materiallie on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:18AM (#48149805)
I know it's a common pop science factoid, but there's actually no evidence that language difficulty has much to do with becoming a lingua franca.

Russian is commonly viewed as a difficult language, but it become a regional lingua franca in their sphere of influence. The only reason we aren't speaking Russian is because they lost the cold war.

I do agree that Mandarin speakers might become more open to Pinyin if more foreigners started learning the language. I'd also point out that English and Romance speakers find Mandarin difficult. For Mandarin speakers, is their own spoken language actually difficult for them? They might find English to be a difficult language.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by jjmarr on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:28AM (#48149922)
English is one of the most difficult languages to learn, because there's so many irregular sentence/word constructions + irregular pronunciations due to vowel shift + foreign loan words like French/Latin that must be pronounced differently.

Mandarin eliminates all of these problems. The tones and characters are difficult, sure, but questions and answers being grammatically identical along with consistent pinyin is a lifesaver.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by amanaplanacanal on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:59AM (#48150253)
Most of that is due to weird spelling, not inherent to the spoken language.
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by jjmarr on Friday May 15, 2026 @01:54PM (#48151702)
The hardest part about Chinese is "weird spelling" because the written language is a separate language than the spoken one.

If you're using pinyin it's already easier than English.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by _DeadFred_ on Friday May 15, 2026 @01:50PM (#48151656)
English is the best language for this because it easily incorporates quirks/foreign loan words. It will always win over more perfect languages because it just absorbs new concepts. It's purpose/existence from the start was to absorb cultures/concepts. It IS the embodiment of joining cultures + move fast/break things over entrenching/codifying.
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by hn_throwaway_99 on Saturday May 16, 2026 @03:27PM (#48163013)
> English is one of the most difficult languages to learn

I'm curious if this is just an opinion, or if there is data on this. As a native English speaker, I would have thought this to be true. But I have literally never heard this from people who learned English as a second language, and I was always surprised when these folks said they thought English was pretty easy to learn. My guess was that the "loosey goosey" rules of English are a double edged sword. Yes, there are tons of irregular sentence constructions and exceptions to the rules, but at the same time, most native English speakers (at least in the US) don't actually care all that much if you get all the exceptions right, so if you follow the general rules, people will understand you and respond. I mean, tons of native speakers mix up lay/laid/lie/lied (or sometimes throw in a layed for good measure) all the time, and people don't really care.

This is in contrast to other languages where people will give you blank stares (or worse, take offense) if you get one verb conjugation wrong.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by vasac on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:31AM (#48149953)
> It's an advantage, but I don't see that changing for a very long time:

It’s an interesting question: for how long will it remain important to know multiple languages in the age of LLMs? Of course, it’s better to know foreign language(s) — no doubt about that — but for day-to-day work, unless you’re living abroad, it seems that their practical utility will slowly decrease. And speech-to-speech translation will likely continue to improve as well.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by gegtik on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:13AM (#48149741)
are you including pinyin in your writing system analysis?
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by vanuatu on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:00AM (#48148702)
I think English is definitely a reason that I took for granted. To add to that from my experience:

- The culture is, I think, the root of the flywheel. The entrepreneurship and competitive intensity is unlike anywhere else I've lived (not an American). It's okay to go bankrupt. It's okay to fail multiple times and burn millions in VC money, in fact it's encouraged! Take a break and raise another round and go again, VCs like second time founders. In my home country having one business go under is the worst thing imaginable.

- The capital markets, even YC (one of the lower tier accelerators by now) gives you 500k for 7%, sometimes pre-revenue. That is an absurd proposition elsewhere

- Surrounding yourself with top talent raises the ceiling for what you think is possible and accelerates your career really fast. It's inspiring for me to be around so many smart and successful people.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by ambicapter on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:22AM (#48149006)
What's your definition of "successful people"?
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by vanuatu on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:27AM (#48149069)
Self actualized, high optionality
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by samothrace on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:44AM (#48149332)
Rich, rich
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by throwaway201606 on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:00AM (#48149560)
The language of global commerce and technology has not and has never been English

It is money.

Specifically, right now, petro-dollars. For a while before that, it was pounds

The writer is asking how much longer that will continue to be true that it is petro-dollars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_currency

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by gegtik on Friday May 15, 2026 @11:16AM (#48149782)
right, it was english, but then it became english
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:58AM (#48149530)
> but there isn't any reason English is natively superior, any more than French was 150 years ago, or Latin 600 years ago.

Actually, there is. English is relatively unique in its ability to incorporate loan words and features of other languages. This is in part due to its history as a merger of 10k French (thus, Latinate) words into an otherwise Germanic language. But it's also due to the unfortunate history of the British empire, followed by American hegemony, which spread English to many other cultures who freely adapted it.

Whether this is enough to justify a continuing status as "the international language" is obviously debatable. But English is different from almost all other human languages, not because it is better, but because it is just ... more

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by adrian_b on Friday May 15, 2026 @12:34PM (#48150663)
The ability of English to easily incorporate loanwords is because it has lost almost all word flexion from Old English, with very few exceptions, like the plural marker "-s".

Because most grammatical markers are isolated prepositions, there are no problems caused by phonetic mismatches with the words to which they are associated, like it happens in the languages where a borrowed noun must fit into a declension pattern, which can produce phonetically awkward words.

While among the European languages, for English it is indeed the easiest to borrow new words, one can easily construct an artificial language that would be even better than English from this point of view, and which would remedy various problems of English, like the necessity of knowing separately a written form and a spoken form for every word, or the existence of a lot of semantic ambiguities that do not exist in other languages, or various difficulties to express various nuances using the existing modal verbs, or the too verbose methods for expressing certain verbal tenses, moods and voices.

Thus English does not really have any technical advantages. Its moat is the inertia caused by its so widespread use in the present, which will prevent any other language to replace it, regardless of how much simpler and better that language would be.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by PaulDavisThe1st on Friday May 15, 2026 @05:02PM (#48153775)
> a lot of semantic ambiguities that do not exist in other languages,

This is actually another strength of English, not a weakness.

> one can easily construct an artificial language that would be even better than English from this point of view,

The history of artificial languages (Esperanto in particular) is not encouraging in this regard.

> Thus English does not really have any technical advantages.

I wasn't really trying to suggest a technical advantage, but rather a cultural one. English users, as a worldwide bloc, are really incredibly open to loan words, modified grammar, and even whole new vocabulary. All of this happens in other languages too, but the culture of english makes or allows it to happen much faster and much more broadly.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by robrain on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:19AM (#48148951)
I’m on a motorhome holiday in Norway right now. The younger people I’ve spoken to, from the Netherlands, through Germany and Denmark and into Norway have as good English as me. As with most American-exceptionalism, you ain’t that special. On previous holidays in France, often held up as “never-willingly-speak-English”, we’ve had similar experiences.

Older people here in Northern Europe often seem to speak English quite well, in France less so.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by noir_lord on Friday May 15, 2026 @10:34AM (#48149171)
I'm English, my Danish friends have less of an English accent and are considerably more literate than the average of the people I interact with at work over most days.

It isn't a moat, My partners written English surpasses mine and it is her third language.

Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by aworks on Friday May 15, 2026 @01:31PM (#48151429)
I, an American, was on a business trip in Sweden then a holiday in Scotland. It was easier to understand the Swedes than the Scots...
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by Biologist123 on Tuesday May 19, 2026 @06:02PM (#48200284)
Err…becuase we speak Scottish not English.
Re:The old world of tech is dying and the new cannot be born by stymaar on Friday May 15, 2026 @01:29PM (#48151400)
This.

But this advantage is vanishing. While automated translation is still not good enough for someone fluent in English to tolerate, it's more than good enough already and the progress have been insane over the past few years.

I don't think English speakers are going to have any edge moving forward.