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Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by tardedmeme on Friday May 08, 2026 @05:46PM (#48069181)
With the new reCAPTCHA this is going to happen because most human visitors will actually be unable to pass the CAPTCHA. It will be interesting to see whether this makes websites ditch reCAPTCHA or whether they literally just don't care about having customers, an attitude that seems to be getting more and more common every day.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by papercruncher on Friday May 08, 2026 @06:34PM (#48069593)
I have been unable to give my money to Home Depot, REI and a growing list of online retailers because they use Akamai EdgeSuite, which just assumes I am a bot and 403s on protected API calls. This happens consistently on any IP and any browser on my Linux desktop/laptop.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by spystath on Friday May 08, 2026 @08:08PM (#48070318)
There are not enough words to describe how much I hate Akamai EdgeSuite. So many random validation loops and 403s across different physical computers, different operating systems, different connections and even countries. A couple of services I need use it and it's 30% I'll make it past their stupid "protection".
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by drew870mitchell on Friday May 08, 2026 @06:58PM (#48069788)
Same, i'm doing a kitchen reno and gave up on Home Depot because of this
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by userbinator on Friday May 08, 2026 @09:39PM (#48070919)
Home Depot at least has a physical presence, which you can go and directly give some much-needed feedback to.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by tardedmeme on Friday May 08, 2026 @09:56PM (#48070989)
It has a zero percent chance of reaching anyone who can do anything about it.

You could try handwriting and posting a letter to their CEO. I think that sometimes works. Probably not very often but there are more than zero CEOs who read those letters.

Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by userbinator on Friday May 08, 2026 @10:49PM (#48071319)
The point is to spread the word.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by komali2 on Friday May 08, 2026 @10:07PM (#48071033)
REI is allegedly a co-op, maybe there's a committee or something it could be presented to?
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by tardedmeme on Friday May 08, 2026 @10:47PM (#48071303)
Usually that just means the owners of the individual stores are the shareholders.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by smcin on Saturday May 09, 2026 @02:04AM (#48072255)
REI Co-op has an Annual Members Meeting in Seattle, where it announces the results of the board of directors election. The 2026 one happened Feb 5. Apparently the presentation is only 8m long, some saying it's pre-recorded and it's near-impossible for members to submit a question that actually gets answered:

https://www.rei.com/newsroom/article/2026-rei-board-of-direc...

https://www.rei.com/newsroom/article/rei-announces-2026-boar...

https://www.reddit.com/r/REI/comments/1qw14k6/rei_hosts_thei...

Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by petre on Saturday May 09, 2026 @12:26AM (#48071825)
Maybe they'll figure it out when their revenue drops next quorter or the ones after that?

I was thinking in the same terms: you put up a QR capcha, you don't get my traffic and money. Just the amount of extra work needed, let alone the Google tracking turns me off. As if traffic lights, crosswalks and bridges weren't enough of a hassle.

Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by account42 on Monday May 11, 2026 @05:08AM (#48092701)
You can also send an email if you're lazy. In both cases the CEO probably won't read it but a more than minimum wage secretary probably will pass it on to corporate customer support which IME is a lot more useful and the regular support that the company wants you to use.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by ksenzee on Friday May 08, 2026 @11:33PM (#48071570)
It sure makes debugging headers a pain. curl -sLIXGET https://… never mind, that won’t work, _fires up browser yet again_
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by g-b-r on Friday May 08, 2026 @05:53PM (#48069239)
One problem with these things is that businesses have minimal visibility on the amount of users they lose.

On the opposite, if they see reports of many visitors not completing the captcha, they're likely to think "Wow so many bots!!! This defense nowadays is indispensable..!".

Sometimes you need to pass a captcha even to contact them (if you want to tell them that you can't pass their captcha).

Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by jbvlkt on Friday May 08, 2026 @06:26PM (#48069514)
I wanted to give money to charity and they have whole form protected by recaptcha. So I would have to allow all my personal information and amount donated sent to google (and agree with google terms for data processing). I have contacted them but they did not understand why this is problem they just wanted to protect themself against bots. IMHO unless those things are not disallowed by antitrust laws we have lost.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by vanviegen on Saturday May 09, 2026 @05:20AM (#48073426)
We wouldn't want bots throwing money at us!
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by sfilmeyer on Saturday May 09, 2026 @10:47AM (#48075408)
I suspect this is a real problem for charities, though. If those bots are using stolen credit cards, the "donations" are going to cost the charities money after they pay extra fees to the credit card processors. Nonprofits are sometimes used to test stolen credit cards before making more profitable fraudulent transactions, so there's a real risk of it costing them money if they get rid of the captcha but don't replace it with something sufficiently high quality, even after accounting for the occasional lost donation.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by g-b-r on Saturday May 09, 2026 @01:46PM (#48076777)
Why would they pay extra fees?
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by sfilmeyer on Saturday May 09, 2026 @02:21PM (#48077034)
Merchants often pay a chargeback fee on top of refunding the main charge. Additionally, merchants with lots of fraud or other chargeback issues are likely to be dropped by payment processors or see their general fees with payment processors get more expensive.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by bar000n on Friday May 08, 2026 @06:44PM (#48069662)
i say technofeudalism, not sure i know what i'm writing about though
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by chadgpt2 on Friday May 08, 2026 @06:54PM (#48069759)
Luckily the marketplace of money will ensure that businesses who block their customers shrink and businesses who don't block their customers grow.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by raincole on Friday May 08, 2026 @09:22PM (#48070819)
> most human visitors will actually be unable to pass the CAPTCHA

Most human visitors will never ever notice the change. reCAPTCHA is completely invisible for most human visitors because they are allowed to pass just by fingerprint.

It's not like an average user is going to have to scan a QR code every time they visit a site via web browser. If it were like this then it would be a non-issue because no sane website would adopt this system. But it isn't.

Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by pixel_popping on Saturday May 09, 2026 @09:15AM (#48074741)
This is not true, maybe in the US, but in many countries you get captchas all the time with residential connection and also in public places all the time, internet cafe, airports, cafe wifis and so, they'll at least get it once, that way there is a permanent fingerprint correlation with real identity, I can bet that EVERYBODY will get it at some point so Google and other people on board with this atrocity (webmasters are also accomplice) can finish-up the master plan.
Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by sandworm101 on Friday May 08, 2026 @10:22PM (#48071123)
>> whether they literally just don't care about having customers

So every government website. Every website where people simply have no choice (DMV) or where failure to login results in them not claiming the money/benefits they are due (all tax websites). And every website handling post-sale complaints (Airlines, insurance).

Re:Google Broke reCAPTCHA for De-Googled Android Users by sumeno on Saturday May 09, 2026 @11:56AM (#48075967)
> most human visitors will actually be unable to pass the CAPTCHA

Most human visitors will pull out their smartphone and just do it without giving it much thought.