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Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by runn1ng on Sunday November 18, 2012 @02:44PM (#4801388)
I still don't understand - Israel and its citizens claim that Gaza is the aggressor.

While the civilian casualties are much higher on Palestinian side. And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by three14 on Sunday November 18, 2012 @03:05PM (#4801453)
Why does that seem contradictory? Gaza can be the aggressor, but Israel is much better armed. (Don't confuse shipping with getting by truck; they don't receive supplies by ship, but they do get plenty of supplies.)
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by antihero on Sunday November 18, 2012 @05:33PM (#4801941)
Right, Israel occupies their land but Gaza is the aggressor?
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by three14 on Sunday November 18, 2012 @10:48PM (#4802796)
You are really changing the subject from aggression, but...

Let's say we have a dispute. You say I stole your house, and I say I didn't. Do you think a good way to resolve the dispute is to take pot-shots at my kids? Does it make it a better idea to take pot-shots if I have a machine gun and you don't?

As far as I can tell, defending Hamas is just insane, even if you really, really think Palestinians are abused by Israelis.

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by antihero on Wednesday November 21, 2012 @02:39PM (#4815923)
No, that's bunk. A more accurate representation is that my house is built on a plot of land that your ancestors had thousands of years ago. Your mates tell you that you can live there, so you come in and beat me up and kick me out and destroy all my shit. When I then try break back in, you shoot me and my family.
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by helgy on Sunday November 18, 2012 @06:30PM (#4802102)
Huh, WTF? Israel is not occupying Gaza since 2005.
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by antihero on Wednesday November 21, 2012 @02:37PM (#4815902)
They are occupying the West Bank. I would have said Palestine, but I was using the words of the OP.
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by jQueryIsAwesome on Sunday November 18, 2012 @07:30PM (#4802244)
"Their land"... if there is something that the Palestina and Israel conflict has remembered us is that nobody owns anything that they can't defend. The Americans killed the natives and then future generations don't think that it matters because they weren't directly involved in that; the same thing happens in this conflict that haves already many years in the making.

People entitle themselves to land for no logical reason; nobody thinks: "This country haves 40 million people an there is 7.053 billion people in the world; therefore we should only own a 176.325th of the available terrain"; never happens.

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by antihero on Wednesday November 21, 2012 @02:37PM (#4815907)
By this logic I could punch you in the face and steal your phone and it would be completely righteous because you didn't defend it well enough.

What is the point of civilisation if it fails to prevent suffering?

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by maratd on Sunday November 18, 2012 @02:55PM (#4801427)
> And while it's Israel who blocks shipping goods and humanitarian aid to Gaza.

Actually, those aren't blocked. Well, unless you consider missiles to be humanitarian aid.

Should they just let Iran ship weapons into Gaza to be used against Israeli civilians?

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by pooriaazimi on Sunday November 18, 2012 @03:40PM (#4801592)
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by aes256 on Sunday November 18, 2012 @07:05PM (#4802178)
Regarding the flotilla debacle, Israel offered to have the ships dock at Israeli ports, inspect the cargo, and transfer any legitimate aid through the land crossings.

The flotilla organizers refused this offer. Their purpose was not to deliver humanitarian aid, but to cause a spectacle drawing attention to the security restrictions imposed on the Strip.

Once the flotilla was diverted and the contents were unloaded and placed on Israeli trucks to be transferred to the Gaza Strip, Hamas refused to accept it. This humanitarian aid was apparently so urgently needed that Hamas decided they didn't want to lose face by accepting it.

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by maratd on Sunday November 18, 2012 @04:49PM (#4801813)
Expecting perfection from a process largely performed by human beings is ridiculous. Of course there were legitimate shipments that were blocked by mistake and of course, there were those who were rightfully pissed when that happened.

I am sure that if no missiles were being brought into Gaza or if those missiles weren't used for killing Israeli civilians, there would be no blockade of anything.

What do you expect the Israelis to do? Just die? Oh wait, that is what you expect them to do.

Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by helgy on Sunday November 18, 2012 @06:25PM (#4802085)
That's trivial to understand though. Hamas doesn't give a shit about Palestinian people. They are fanatics, why would they? Most of their weapons including medium range missiles is stored in civilian homes, mosques or other public places that less likely to be targeted. As a bonus points if such storage gets hit it's a breaking news for reporters who love to write stories about "Israel bombed mosque, 9000 children are killed".
Re:Israeli government websites under mass hacking attack by shn on Monday November 19, 2012 @08:19PM (#4807275)
Because they know very well to play the "victim". Checkout the map at http://www.freerangelongmont.com/2012/06/08/no-end-in-sight/