How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt]

Re:How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt] by rdevilla on Thursday April 30, 2026 @02:36PM (#47966524)

You weren't transacting at all in Toronto during COVID then.

This is the endgame of surveillance capitalism: submission, or opting out. Few can, or care enough to, do the latter.

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Re:How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt] by lolstarz on Thursday April 30, 2026 @03:25PM (#47967103)

I'm as concerned about the surveillance state as anyone but let's keep our history constrained by fact. I live in Toronto too and it was still true that for many, many places cash was fine. Cash discounts are super common in various parts of the city and this was still true during COVID.

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Re:How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt] by rdevilla on Thursday April 30, 2026 @03:27PM (#47967130)

> let's keep our history constrained by fact. I live in Toronto too

This is hilarious. Toronto has no respect for facts, it has shown it will just fabricate histories out of whole cloth.

Nevertheless I'm tired of people citing anecdata and personal experience when upthread I have linked to a CBC article discussing a Bank of Canada report "arguing that cash-based transactions have plummeted from 54 per cent in 2009 to 10 per cent as of 2021."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/canada-sleepwalking-in...

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Re:How Mark Klein told the EFF about Room 641A [book excerpt] by stronglikedan on Thursday April 30, 2026 @03:29PM (#47967148)

> You weren't transacting at all in Toronto during COVID then.

There's always someone will to take cash. It's still king, despite the naysayers.

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