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Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by gregd on Friday November 16, 2012 @08:56AM (#4793830)
Have you used Windows 8 on the desktop? The start menu and the desktop top are two separate "eco systems" for lack of a better word. When you're on the desktop, you can't just start typing and have search popup what it finds like you can on the start menu.

The new start menu is a usability nightmare. I can't get desktop alerts on my Start Menu (from AV and Firewall). Toast notifications, when desktop programs catch up to that functionality, won't be as elaborate as desktop notifications. Meaning I won't be able to click "allow" or "deny" or "block" while in the start menu.

Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by Permit on Friday November 16, 2012 @09:26AM (#4793963)
>Have you used Windows 8 on the desktop?

Yes, I used the previews and it's my primary OS at home.

> The start menu and the desktop top are two separate "eco systems" for lack of a better word. When you're on the desktop, you can't just start typing and have search popup what it finds like you can on the start menu.

I'm not sure I follow. If you hit the Windows key and begin typing, you have search across your whole system. It's essentially the same as Windows 7 with the exception of user interface. (ie. the same functionality is present)

Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by gregd on Friday November 16, 2012 @09:46AM (#4794025)
Universal search isn't really universal if the functionality doesn't act the same throughout the system. I agree that the search functionality from the start menu is excellent. Just starting to type away will automatically bring up search and begin to almost instantaneously offer results FROM THE START MENU ONLY.

Want this functionality from the desktop? NOPE! Want this functionality from the App Store? NOPE!

Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by gregd on Friday November 16, 2012 @08:58AM (#4793835)
In addition, when I RDP into my Windows 8 machine from my mac, the hot corners on the mac are for OSX functionality and begin to interfere with bringing up the start menu
Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by MatthewPhillips on Friday November 16, 2012 @08:59AM (#4793845)
You never could "just start typing" when on the desktop. You either had to click the start button or the windows key. That's still true in Windows 8.
Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by gregd on Friday November 16, 2012 @09:03AM (#4793864)
I didn't say you could. But the start menu was always one click away. Now it's a hot corner, a click, and typing to find the program, away.

Well except I bought and paid for Start8 and I've been way happier with it installed.

Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by stinos on Friday November 16, 2012 @09:41AM (#4794012)
"But the start menu was always one click away. Now it's a hot corner, a click, and typing to find the program"

I do not have Windows 8 but just reading this makes it sounds like two methods that are exactly the same?

  - moving the mouse to the start orb == moving the mouse to a hot corner
  - clicking the orb == clicking the hot corner
  - typing == typing
Re:With Sinofsky gone and Start8 selling well, will MS add t... by drharris on Friday November 16, 2012 @09:22AM (#4793942)
Or just hit the windows key (or Ctrl-Esc) and type. Why do people like to click so much?