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Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by Arodex on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:07AM (#47922635)
Thank you for your brilliant demonstration of survivorship bias.

How many people were punished for Enron? For the subprime crisis? Etc.

In the US, you just give a little money for the president's ballroom and you are pardoned. Or you settle out of court because your justice system is crap.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by selectodude on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:17AM (#47922785)
The CEO of Enron was convicted and died two months before sentencing and the COO got 12 years.

Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by joe_mamba on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:36PM (#47924673)
>Interestingly the chief accountant of Enron ended up getting a job in Europe after he got out of prison.

But, but ..Europeans here said they don't tolerate crooks.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by Arodex on Monday April 27, 2026 @08:05PM (#47928869)
The parent poster is implying things that aren't:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Fastow

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by watwut on Monday April 27, 2026 @09:48AM (#47921519)
Yes, European companies break the law too. However, the comment this was about literally mocked the companies that are actively trying to follow the law.

So yes, such companies exist and plenty of people see their existence as a good thing rather then something to mock.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by jgwil2 on Monday April 27, 2026 @09:52AM (#47921573)
That comment mocked German customers; it didn't mention companies at all.
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by Mashimo on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:15AM (#47921951)
I read it like the customers where German based companies.
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by rat9988 on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:17AM (#47921973)
Obviously B2B given the context
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by mothballed on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:40AM (#47922259)
Law has no virtue in and of itself.
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by 21asdffdsa12 on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:12AM (#47922716)
It also ultimately a expression of might makes right (sad as this is) and as the current culture supports a decline of western might, it also undoes the law - first international, than domestic. We simply decided to burden our might with these restriction fictions, others feel not at all compelled to follow.

I expect to see further selling out of these laws, as the economic prosperity declines. I can perfectly see german law limiting german companies from developing and selling AI products, while at the same time allowing us companies for a "pay our retires and pension-plans" kickback.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by esafak on Monday April 27, 2026 @09:53AM (#47921592)
In Europe, those are scandals. In the US, it's another Tuesday.
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by joe_mamba on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:07AM (#47921795)
If we keep moving the goalposts you can make any argument
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by Arodex on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:09AM (#47922658)
What goalposts? Your sitting president, himself a conman is pardoning fraudsters left and right while he and his family enrich themselves with public money and extortion.
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by Ylpertnodi on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:20AM (#47922822)
Shhhh, don't tell them, it'll be funnier at the end.
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by joe_mamba on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:38PM (#47924713)
What's "the end"?
Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by joe_mamba on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:35PM (#47924660)
> Your sitting president, himself a conman

Joke's on you, I'm European not American, so "your president" in this case would be the unelected Ursula and she would technically be a con-woman, not a con-man.

Not sure what your argument was supposed to prove with this cheap jab though.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by Arodex on Monday April 27, 2026 @08:01PM (#47928852)
Ursula Van der Leyen was elected. Trump too.

If you argue she wasn't elected by the European population, well, Trump technically isn't too.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by pyrale on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:25AM (#47922086)
Let me rephrase this: companies want to avoid breaking the law unknowingly, because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly.

Plenty of corporations are willing to break the rules, but never for free.

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by guywithahat on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:51AM (#47922400)
> because their US providers are going to break the law without notice, willingly or unwillingly

This is a weird hill to die on because it's not true. I can't find anything to support your world view and if anything evidence points to the contrary. Europe has a deliberately more complex legal framework, usually in the hopes of keeping out foreign competition (although it's dubious whether or not that actually works).

Re:France's Mistral Built a $14B AI Empire by Not Being Amer... by pyrale on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:22AM (#47922841)
> I can't find anything to support your world view

Just look at US laws pertaining to data that goes through US companies.