"you see Timmy, sometimes religious leaders have to call for the death/destruction of a society because of something that happened 30 (now 70) years earlier".

"You see Timmy, your kneecaps are smashed because Mr. Nixon doesn't think you deserve free speech. Don't take it personally, and don't oppose us or your teeth are next."

Which Timmy would you rather be?

Wild take but I condemn both. My nation removed Nixon in disgrace and we despise him almost universally. I condemn him and I condemn the horrible acts done by the United States. Do you not agree that supreme religious leaders shouldn't call for the death and destruction of entire societies ever? You can be against both.

No one called for the destruction of the american society as a whole, but trump did call for the erasion of their civilization. You're worried about words that are misinterpreted, while leaving the actual terrorism and death conducted by the US and israel and their supporters over the past decades. Remind me again, how much blood of millions do they literally have on their hands?

"death to America". Crazy the gaslighting here. Iran has been loud and clear what they want, for 40 years. Also crazy that no one is willing to say "Supreme religious leaders should not call for the destruction of a society it is wrong they have done that for 40 years"

Reminder 'death to America' is followed with 'death to Israel'. You can't gaslight that one away as 'Iran doesn't really want to destroy Israel'. And Iran considers Israel the small satan compared to the USA. So it is beyond ridiculous to claim the 'death to America' in 'death to America, death to Isreal' has a different meaning to Iranians from 'death to Israel'.

Reminder: blood of millions on the hands of the US and israel. They're justified to react, just as how the people of many parts of West Asia and Africa reacted to their european colonizers.

Wow, suddenly a dramatic shift from

"Chants against the government, as they themselves have made clear, not against the individuals. "

and

"No one called for the destruction of the american society as a whole"

when I point out they also call for death, (and very much mean death of a society) for Israel immediately after they call for death to America. Chants that the Islamic Republic of Iran and it's supreme religious leaders very much mean as the destruction of Israeli society as a whole.

They are calling for death to Israel, and by extension that means they also literally mean death to the USA, and it is justified in your eyes. Religious leaders are justified to call for death in your eyes.

Where's the shift? The chants are still against the US government.

They are also against the israeli government, not the jews themselves. Israel bombed synagogues of iranian jews[1]. The are calling for the end of occupation of Palestine, just as all Muslims do.

You are putting words in their mouth that they didn't say. And using that to excuse the war crimes committed by the US and israel which caused millions to die.

[1] https://x.com/FurkanGozukara/status/2041531958304403746

Chants against the government, as they themselves have made clear, not against the individuals. Chants vs. actual blood of millions on the hands of the US and israel.

So when the Islamic Republic of Iran and it's supreme religious leader calls for 'death to Israel' immediately after 'death to America' they only mean the government, they don't actually want Israel gone? If Israel agreed to never interfere in Iran, Iran would stop the chants?

On Oct 7th did Iran condemn when their proxies murdered random Israeli grandmothers, Isreali parents and clarify that is NOT what they mean by 'death to Israel'? Because it seems like basically the execution of Iran's policy/calls for violence exactly matching what childhood me feared.

I think 'death to America, death to Israel' means death to Israel. And it would therefor be really odd to interpret the 'death to America' part as something other than death to America.

> If Israel agreed to never interfere in Iran, Iran would stop the chants?

It's not about what Israel says they will do but actually do, but yes they would definitely mellow down especially if Israel stopped terrorizing the Palestinians, stopped blocking their path to statehood, and allowed all Muslims visit their holy sites in the region.

Oct 7 was a reaction to the decades of brutal occupation, terrorism, massacres, and land grabbing that the Palestinians have faced, just like the rest of western Asia faced at the hands of the european colonizers post WWI. Occurrences like these [1][2][3][4] are normal unfortunately, and they've been facing it since the start of the occupation.

The Palestinian issue is not just for Iran, it's for the 2 billion Muslims on this planet.

Again, the blood of millions of people because of war crimes by the US and israel is recorded by history.

[1] https://x.com/xIsraelExposedx/status/2048142029780054058

[2] https://x.com/xIsraelExposedx/ status/2045257627165208999

[3] https://x.com/Nadira_ali12/status/2038383199156613308

[4] https://x.com/trackingisrael/status/2028930511687536935