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Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by mbreese on Saturday April 25, 2026 @09:45AM (#47901540)
The fact that you had to list all of the versions and speeds at the top of your post is illustrative of what the parent was trying to say. We can all look up what speed is associated with what version, but it’s not exactly a consumer friendly experience.
Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by adrian_b on Saturday April 25, 2026 @10:10AM (#47901686)
A few computer manufacturers do the right thing and they mark the speed on the USB ports, removing ambiguities, for example ASUS does this on my NUCs and motherboards.

Unfortunately, there are too many who do not do this, even among the biggest computer vendors.

Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by riobard on Saturday April 25, 2026 @10:32AM (#47901821)
> mark the speed on the USB ports, removing ambiguities

Unfortunately it's not true.

Quiz: what happens when a device capable of 20Gbps is plugged into a port marked as 40Gbps?

Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by ziml77 on Saturday April 25, 2026 @10:44AM (#47901900)
I can't tell if this is a trick question that has something to do with a quirk of USB running multiple lanes in parallel to get higher speeds.

Because if not then it's the same as any specification for connecting devices that allows for multiple speeds. It runs at the lowest of the max speeds supported of everything in the chain.

Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by riobard on Saturday April 25, 2026 @11:07AM (#47902062)
That's exactly the issue. I'm just pointing out that it's a fantasy to hope for simple numbering of max supported speeds will simplify the current USB mess.

It will not.

Consumers would expect plugging a 20Gbps device into a 40Gbps port should result in 20Gbps negotiated speed. In reality it will mostly likely end up at 10Gbps (or less) because of the mess.

Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by adrian_b on Saturday April 25, 2026 @12:00PM (#47902425)
Older Thunderbolt devices were not compatible with USB, so plugging them into an USB Type C port would not work.

Newer Thunderbolt/USB 4 devices do not have any technical reason for preventing them to work as USB 3.2 2x2, i.e. to work at 20 Gb/s when plugged into a 20 Gb/s host port, and vice-versa for 20 Gb/s devices plugged into a USB 4/Thunderbolt host port, because both Thunderbolt and 20 Gb/s USB need the same wires in the cable and connector.

I do not know if all USB 4 controllers also work at 20 Gb/s (USB 3.2 2x2), but if they do not work that should be considered a bug.

Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by eqvinox on Sunday April 26, 2026 @04:08AM (#47908384)
USB4/TB4 devices doing (only) PCIe tunneling will absolutely not work on a USB3.2 port, or even on an USB4 port without PCIe support (which you can find on some very recent smartphones I believe. It's spec compliant, PCIe is optional.)
Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by hypercube33 on Saturday April 25, 2026 @10:49AM (#47901938)
Thats just port speed, charging and other features are all a crapshoot on USB making Thunderbolt the sane version of the "USB-C" family where it requires a set of things (speed, charging wattage)
Re:New 10 GbE USB adapters are cooler, smaller, cheaper by repeekad on Saturday April 25, 2026 @03:13PM (#47903762)
This is not what’s anti consumer, technical specifications can be confusing, it’s cable companies selling at Best Buy “gold plated” “HD ready” “braided fiber” “other bs” that is anti consumer. If you’re thinking about usb versions, you’re far from the normal consumer