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Re:Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving by robot_jesus on Monday April 20, 2026 @12:34PM (#47836734)
> We've seen all the American models be closed and proprietary from the start

What about Gemma and Llama and gpt-oss, not to mention lots of smaller/specialized models from Nvidia and others?

I would never argue that China isn't ahead in the open weights game, of course, but it's not like it's "all" American models by any stretch.

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Re:Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving by walthamstow on Monday April 20, 2026 @12:36PM (#47836770)
gpt-oss is good but I haven't heard anything about an update. It seems like one and done, to shut up people complaining about non-Open AI
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Re:Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving by InkCanon on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @02:26AM (#47845286)
The more accurate version is only Chinese companies (plus Facebook briefly) really open source their frontier models. The rest are non frontier. They are either older or specialized for something.
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Re:Qwen3.6-Max-Preview: Smarter, Sharper, Still Evolving by 1dom on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @03:40AM (#47845747)
It's all openwashing, all of the ones you listed at somepoint have expressed how important and valuable open weights and locally usable models are. Every single one of them has then increasingly focused and pushed closed, proprietary or cloud usable only options since saying/doing that.

I'm annoyed at myself, because I thought/hoped/praised chinese AI when they were opening up as Llama was closing, but Qwen looks to be doing the same playbook here as Llama/Meta, Gemma/Google and OpenAI/gpt-oss.

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