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Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by mminer237 on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:18AM (#47834742)
Edit: I posted this accidentally when editing without noticing. Hypertrophy isn't necessarily a bad thing. I thought I was discarding the comment cuz I realized I was out of my depth. whoops

Please ignore my comment, though I will leave it to make the below comments less confusing.

Original: You don't want to "work out" your heart though. Cardiac hypertrophy is a bad thing.

The benefit of exercise is that your muscles become more oxygen-efficient. Your heart endures some stress now, so that it can work less in the future.

Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by kiritanpo on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:35AM (#47835008)
Cardiac hypertrophy is not necessarily a bad thing, it can be the result of positive adaptation, such as exercising.

Eccentric hypertrophy (athlete's heart) is the positive adaptation resulting from training the heart. The heart has a lower resting rate and is more efficient at pumping blood. It returns to normal size if training stops.

You'll never reach a state of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (the bad kind of hypertrophy) with exercise. Its cause is usually genetic.

Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by SJMG on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:39AM (#47835066)
This is terribly uniformed. Do not listen to this.

Cardiac hypertrophy isn't a "bad thing". This is completely contextual. What you don't want, for example, is pathological hypertrophy from things like hypertension, or exclusive left ventricular hypertrophy without associated increase in chamber size.

The heart is very complex. You 100% should exercise it.

Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by adrianN on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:35AM (#47835003)
Wikipedia says Athlete's heart is benign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_heart_syndrome
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by kazga on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:45AM (#47835162)
Not true. You can't really train your muscles to use less oxygen for the same energy output (what "oxygen-efficiency" would imply). You rather increase their capacity to take up oxygen from the blood and burn it. They will use more oxygen to output more energy.

That additional oxygen needs to come from somewhere. Endurance training at the same time trains the heart to deliver more oxygen to the periphery; the primary mechanism is increased cardiac stroke volume.

Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by bluGill on Monday April 20, 2026 @11:05AM (#47835383)
You kind of can - the muscles can use aerobic or anaerobic processes. When you develop brute strength you are training those anaerobic processes. That isn't what OP was talking about, and overall it is much less energy efficient, but it does produce a large burst of energy when needed and you can train your muscles that way.
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by gf000 on Monday April 20, 2026 @01:25PM (#47837634)
I would assume that another factor is that the technique for a given exercise on the other hand can be improved, and that can help with decreasing the necessary energy - would that be a correct statement? And as a follow up, depending on activity type this may or may not be significant?
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by frocodillo on Monday April 20, 2026 @02:02PM (#47838202)
Yes, definitely. Technique is partly about efficient mechanical movement, sending the various parts of your body in the right direction(s) and not waste effort on movement that doesn’t contribute to propelling you forwards. But for endurance sports, it’s really about minimizing energy cost at a given speed. To use running as an example, you can improve biomechanical efficiency through better timing, correct loading of tendons, tendon stiffness, elastic energy use, and more.
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by groundzeros2015 on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:56AM (#47835278)
This is why I hate health science. Informed people can have the same information and come to opposite conclusions. The entire field is made up of contradictory explanations and principles, to the extent that it’s unknowable what’s true or not.
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by robrenaud on Monday April 20, 2026 @11:17AM (#47835582)
The flat earthers are why I hate astronomy.

Afaict, the grand parent poster is just very wrong. You do want to cause acute stresses to your heart (cardiovascular exercise) to get it work better.

Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by groundzeros2015 on Monday April 20, 2026 @11:20AM (#47835613)
It’s not really about this particular claim. It’s that I can read a comment that has a reasonable chain of logic and I don’t know if it’s true. This topic is just not easily studied and theories are hard to falsify.
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by groundzeros2015 on Monday April 20, 2026 @03:33PM (#47839404)
Claims about flat earth are falsifiable with at-home experiment.
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by rhyperior on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:25AM (#47834847)
That seems… misguided.

Sources?

Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by jagged-chisel on Monday April 20, 2026 @10:38AM (#47835041)
Your heart is also a muscle.
Re:Sauna effect on heart rate by PaulDavisThe1st on Monday April 20, 2026 @06:52PM (#47842106)
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