So, you havent really learned anything from any teacher if you could not do it again without them?

Yes.

I mean...yeah?

If your child says they've learned their multiplication tables but they can't actually multiply any numbers you give them do they actually know how to do multiplication? I would say no.

For some reason people are perfectly able to understand this in the context of, say, cursive, calculator use, etc., but when it comes to their own skillset somehow it's going to be really different.

That would be the definition of learning something, yes.

Yes that's exactly right.

> So, you havent really learned anything from any teacher if you could not do it again without them?

Well, yes?

What do you think "learning" means? If you cannot do something without the teacher, you haven't learned that thing.

I could definitely maintain the infrastructure without an llm. Albeit much slower.

And yes. If LLMs disappear, then we need to hire a lot of people to maintain the infrastructure.

Which naturally is a part of the risk modeling.

> I could definitely maintain the infrastructure without an llm

Not what I asked, but thanks for playing.

You literally asked that question

> Could you do it again without the help of an LLM?

And the question you answered was "could you maintain it without the help of an LLM"

>> I am learning a new skill with instructor at an incredible rate

> Could you do it again on your own?

Can you you see how nonsensical your stance is? You're straight up accusing GP of lying they are learning something at the increased rate OR suggesting if they couldn't learn that, presumably at the same rate, on they own, they're not learning anything.

That's not very wise to project your own experiences on others.

Actually, it’s much like taking a physics or engineering course, and after the class being fully able to explain the class that day, and yet realize later when you are doing the homework that you did not actually fully understand like you thought you did.

I think this is a bit dismissive.

It’s quite possible to be deep into solving a problem with an LLM guiding you where you’re reading and learning from what it says. This is not really that different from googling random blogs and learning from Stack Overflow.

Assuming everyone just sits there dribbling whilst Claude is in YOLO mode isn’t always correct.

The challenge is not if you could do all of it without AI but any of it that you couldn't before.

Not everyone learns at the same pace and not everyone has the same fault tolerance threshold. In my experiencd some people are what I call "Japanese learners" perfecting by watching. They will learn with AI but would never do it themselves out of fear of getting something wrong while they understand most of it, others that I call "western learners" will start right away and "get their hands dirty" without much knowledge and also get it wrong right away. Both are valid learning strategies fitting different personalities.