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Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by greenmilk on Friday April 17, 2026 @07:26PM (#47811696)
Are any inference providers currently making profit (on inference, I know google makes money)?
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by wsun19 on Friday April 17, 2026 @08:05PM (#47811937)
Pretty much every major American inference provider claims to make a profit on API-based inference. Consumer plans might be subsidized overall, but it's hard to say since they're a black box and some consumers don't fully use their plans
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by jagged-chisel on Friday April 17, 2026 @07:44PM (#47811813)
Google definitely makes money in other areas. Do they make money on inference?
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by wavemode on Friday April 17, 2026 @08:44PM (#47812170)
Selling inference is not fundamentally different from selling compute - you amortize the lifetime cost of owning and operating the GPUs and then turn that into a per-token price. The risk of loss would be if there is low demand (and thus your facilities run underutilized), but I doubt inference providers are suffering from this.

Where the long-term payoff still seems speculative, is for companies doing training rather than just inference.

Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by Gigachad on Friday April 17, 2026 @08:56PM (#47812246)
There’s a lot of debate over what the useful lifespan of the hardware is though. A number that seems very vibes based determines if these datacenters are a good investment or disastrous.
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by hypercube33 on Friday April 17, 2026 @10:20PM (#47812619)
I specifically remember this debate coming up when the H100 was the only player on the table and AMD came out with a card that was almost as fast in at least benchmarks but like half the cost. I haven't seen a follow up with real world use though and as a home labber I know that in the last three weeks the support for AMD stuff at least has gotten impressively useful covering even cuda if you enjoy pain and suffering.

What I'm curious about are what about the other stuff out there such as the ARM and tensor chips.

Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by henry2023 on Friday April 17, 2026 @09:46PM (#47812493)
Third parties selling open-weight inference on OpenRouter are surely selling on a profit. Zero reason to subsidize it.
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by greenmilk on Monday April 20, 2026 @02:59PM (#47838982)
They could be VC-backed and selling at a loss to grow market share
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by raincole on Friday April 17, 2026 @10:53PM (#47812761)
All of them. It's simply impossible to sell tokens by usage at a loss now. You'll be arbitraged to death in a few days. It only makes sense to subsidize cost if you're selling a subscription.
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by avidiax on Saturday April 18, 2026 @09:32AM (#47815803)
How do you arbitrage closed weight models? Who would buy from a middle man at increased price? Who is offering Priceline but for tokens?
Re:Are the Costs of AI Agents Also Rising Exponentially? (2025) by dannersy on Saturday April 18, 2026 @04:37AM (#47814257)
If they were they would show evidence because they'd pull in more investment. I don't believe their claim that they make profits on inference, especially not with reports like this coming out.