The big issue with this approach is that it will destroy your sanity for things that are often a big bag of hype with nothing underneath. I often find HN to be better because things that get on the front page are vetted beyond 'someone on twitter hyped up a thing'

> things that get on the [HN] front page are vetted beyond 'someone on twitter hyped up a thing'

Interesting take. I'm not aware that anyone is doing vote rings or vote buying very successfully (considering that my own blog also makes it at an expected rate, and I know there isn't a group of friends voting that up) but I kinda assume that this is a thing for some of the bigger launches where they are hoping for conversions. Beyond a defined group coordinating their posts or votes, though, surely HN's front page can't be seen as vetted beyond "oh this looks trendy/hype"? People don't vote only after trying out the product or reading the full article. In many cases that would mean voting after it has already disappeared off of the front page for good

> Having an extensively curated list

This is key.

HN is still great but it’s in decline, I still hear about AI developments on r/LocalLlama and X sometimes weeks before they make it here if even at all.

And all the commentary here is negative, skeptical and mean. It’s like Slashdot when Apple started ascending and everyone was complaining that iPods will never catch on.

The manual unflagging pf political stories and the rampant political advocacy that encouraged has destroyed a lot of the value of HN. Inconvenient facts are downmodded, “no u” gets votes.

You haven't seen negative AI sentiments until you visit Lemmy =)

Can you recommend any particular community on Lemmy for those negative sentiments?

Just pick anything tech related and post something that's even mildly ambivalent about AI.

Unless you're curbstomping AI for being "slop", you'll get an instant deluge of downvotes.

FSM help you if you post something positive =)

> FSM help you if you post something positive =)

Ramen

My goodness, the only branch of work that I can think of where knowing something a few hours earlier is probably day trading also.

Seriously, if you're working on anything worthwhile, you can wait for the weekly digest. Everything else just seems like hyperiding.

You can still stay pretty up to date (at least in AI) without even being on X, since everything distills out to every other platform anyway. Between /r/LocalLlama and the ThursdAI and Latent Space newsletters, I'm at most only a few days away from whatever the latest hype is.

I absolutely agree with your sentiment - but it is often the case where you will get into the office at 9:00 AM - and everyone is talking about the biggest release/development that morning - and by lunch it's kind of old news and people have moved on to new thing - and so by the time you are interesting in talking about the thing that happened last week - implications, use, whether it's legit or just hype - people have all moved onto the new thing.

HN is a nice consolidated view - and I pull up the home page 2-3 times a day (and have done so for 10+ years every day) - but, there is a firehose of information coming in on X - particularly if you have a very highly curated list - and some people are insanely high signal - Karpathy for instances always seems to zoom in on important things.

If it no longer matters by lunch then it never mattered to begin with.

> but it is often the case where you will get into the office at 9:00 AM - and everyone is talking about the biggest release/development that morning - and by lunch it's kind of old news and people have moved on to new thing

That's literally just gossip. The same dynamic existed with episodes of Friends and Game of Thrones.

Everyone gathers around the water-cooler and discusses the newest happenings, but that's not science and it's not engineering. You're not passing around serious white papers and looking over peer reviewed publications and datasets, it's just... gossip. It has the same value as gossip and is completely optional.

> whether it's legit or just hype

> by lunch it's kind of old news

It's hype.

I had to reluctuntaly create an account on twitter after years because of the exact same reason. AI research discussion is more active there than anywhere else. I've tried to use nitter's rss feed to stave off of the platform but it was limiting.

Well, Twitter has a lot of separate spheres. It's pretty easy to curate just tpot (the part that concerns itself with the Bay area, venture capital, and so forth) by following the right people and then engaging with posts that are on-topic.

What does the abbreviation stand for?

"That part of Twitter."

twcu

Even when it was Twitter drinking from the firehose didn't really make your life better. I don't need a two sentence breaking update from a Miyazaki baby to stay on top of this stuff, and quite frankly if they can't bother to make a blog post or press release it's probably just noise any way.

bsky is meant to hold the promise of control your algorithm, I don't see why that can't be the model going forward

The problem is largely one of community. The folks talking about AI are still primarily on X and haven't moved over.

I got off Twitter after the election and moved exclusively to Bluesky.

There's A LOT more tech stuff than people realize but the anti-AI crowd on that site is nuts.

The tech seems great, the people don't

This assumes that "breaking news" is accurate, it's not, nor is "breaking news" ever worth reading.

This is just busy work chasing nothing but vanity.

Like asking heroin addicts what heroin they prefer. What an utter waste time.