Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to begin

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by amunozo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:06AM (#47687403)

If it is to recover what Israel occupied illegally, good. If Palestine did what Israel is doing, that would be bad. What happened in October the 7th was also horrible and condemned. We really need to deescalate the whole situation and stop the violence. Every one of these violent actions (in which Israel is the main perpetrator by far), not only create suffering and deaths in the short term, but makes a possible solution harder and harder.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by anovikov on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:14AM (#47687484)

But in land of Israel/Palestine itself, there's no significant violence going on right? Hamas is isolated, there is an ample security zone, it's cut off from border and unable to militarily recover - problem is solved. West Bank is split into many enclaves, surrounded by walls and buffer zones, incapable of doing much harm and seems to be unwilling to try it in any case - any such outbursts will be contained if they happen.

For now, problem looks like it's solved - Palestinians on either side are incapable of harming Israel much, and Israel doesn't need or want to harm them either simply because endgame is unclear - ideally they are pushed out but no country will accept them so it's futile.

What is the exact problem we are discussing here? Actions in Lebanon are simply about creating a buffer zone there to make remnants of Hezbolla to threaten Israeli northern towns. Once zone south Litani river is secured, things will calm down.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by nixon_why69 on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:20AM (#47687522)

There's lots of violence towards Palestinians ongoing in both the West Bank and Gaza. While a million(!!) are newly homeless in Lebanon.

The complete lack of regard for non-Israeli life says more than any propaganda ever could.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by xg15 on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:41AM (#47688242)

Problem is solved for Israel, right. Gaza is still in ruins, cut off from everything, there is a massive humanitarian crisis, the systematic dispossession campaign in the West Bank is accelerating, but I guess all of that just affects Palestinians, so it doesn't count...

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by anovikov on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @11:02AM (#47691211)

Problem here is that first and foremost, Gaza needs two things to fix their housing stock: cement and pipes... And they aren't getting either because cement immediately goes into building tunnels, and pipes into producing rockets. No way Israel will be fooled that way again - and now they control what goes in or not because of buffer zone.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by xg15 on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @11:23AM (#47691508)

Yeah no. The current "debate" from what I understand is about mobile homes and any kind of temporary shelter that is more durable than a tent. The Israeli government straight up said "no, mobile homes count as 'reconstruction' for us and reconstruction in any form is forbidden until Hamas is disarmed. So tents is all they get".

All that during several winter storms.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by anovikov on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @12:26PM (#47692407)

This is Palestine, not Minnesota :) I live right next to it. It never gets below zero. No snow.

And yes that's what was the condition of ceasefire. Of course Israel knew Hamas won't yield power. They are made so that Hamas can be now blamed for the plight of Palestinians. Question is, who elected Hamas to power?

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by cloud-ranger on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:53AM (#47687870)

Things were calm until Israel attacked Lebanon. They did it, after Israel and America started an illegal war against Iran. At this point, everyone knows Israel is the aggressor. One of the first acts of Operation Epstein's Fury was to attack a girls school and murder over 170 kids with a Tomahawk. Why?

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by simonh on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @06:07AM (#47687984)

The school building used to be part of the adjacent IRGC military base, but was converted into a school. The targeting database hadn't been updated.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2026/mar/26/ai-got-the-blam...

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by amunozo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:11AM (#47688584)

Tell that to the parents of the 170 girls.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by simonh on Thursday April 09, 2026 @02:51AM (#47700152)

I have two girls myself. I’d want to know exactly what happened and why, and to hold whoever made this deplorable mistake accountable. So I’d want to know this. Wouldn’t you? I think the AI targeting aspect of this is very disturbing.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by amunozo on Thursday April 09, 2026 @04:45AM (#47700895)

Sorry, I misread your comment as a justification the first time. The US and Iseael are involved in war crimes and I am so tired of people justifying it.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by nickserv on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:32AM (#47687646)

> We really need to deescalate the whole situation and stop the violence.

Yes. Also, I would like a poney.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by bigfudge on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @05:52AM (#47687860)

This is so unhelpful. What has happened in the last 5 weeks has hugely escalated the violence in an already difficult situation. It's not wishful thinking or naive to think that deliberately inflaming a difficult situation is a bad idea.

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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by amunozo on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @07:12AM (#47688588)

So what's the alternative? Wanting to deescalate this massacre is nonsense, but the actions of Israel make sense?

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