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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by ra on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @04:23AM (#47687044)
Have Israel ever respected a ceasefire?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by SirFatty on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @08:42AM (#47689389)
Has Hamas or Hezbollah?
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by arbitrary_name on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @12:04PM (#47692089)
why is that relevant? Israel is a nation state, the others are 'terrorist groups'. are they equivalent? your response seems to imply that.

Interesting.

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by cnd78A on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @12:32PM (#47692518)
Israel is not a nation state but a western colony in Palestine (like Tibet is a Chinese colony, or Algeria was for france).
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by _DeadFred_ on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @12:56PM (#47692903)
Hamas is the government in Gaza who the ceasefire was with and whose acts it was contingent on.

Hezbollah is part of the government in Lebanon and who the ceasefire was with and whose acts in was contingent on.

The relevance is pretty obvious.

'why are do you want to include both sides (including the actual governments on both sides) in a discussion about ceasefire' is a wild take.

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by ChoGGi on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @09:27AM (#47689949)
You seem to be implying Israel is no better than a terrorist group.
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Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by CGMthrowaway on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @11:53AM (#47691918)
Are you sure? The ADL says Jewish Voice for Peace are antisemitic: https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounder/jewish-voice-peac...
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by _DeadFred_ on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @12:50PM (#47692817)
Hamas is the (originally elected by the people) government of Gaza. Hezbollah is a partner of and inside Lebanon's government.

In addition, both parties are who Israel was nominally in a ceasefire with. So extremely relevant to the discussion about Israel and ceasefires and not random whataboutism.

You seem to be implying discussion should be waived away if a counter party is both a government and a terrorist organization.

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by ChoGGi on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @02:49PM (#47694552)
Not sure why you're replying to me?

I'm not the one comparing Israel, Hamas, and Hezbollah.

Though next time I'll put terrorist group in quotes, as everyone has their own opinion.

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by tim-tday on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @01:13PM (#47693188)
Your argument is invalid.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by ChoGGi on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @02:48PM (#47694523)
What's my argument? He's the one that used them for comparison.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by stanfordkid on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @04:15PM (#47695692)
Not only is it no better, it is significantly worse.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by umanwizard on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @11:17AM (#47691412)
Yes
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by igleria on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @09:01AM (#47689592)
Textbook whataboutism.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by SirFatty on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @01:20PM (#47693311)
Israel would not be doing this if not for the continuous attacks from those jihadist groups (well funded by Iran). But you know that.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by bigyabai on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @01:29PM (#47693457)
The Nakba was not provoked by jihadist groups, it was provoked by colonial invaders. The victimization narrative never worked.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by aaa_aaa on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @01:40PM (#47693620)
They have a far better track record. The other side constantly lies and violates every rule.
Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by komali2 on Wednesday April 08, 2026 @10:50PM (#47698785)
Less times than Israel, and usually in response.

Israel has done more terrorism than Hamas.

Re:Trump announces two-week ceasefire as Iran says talks to ... by batisteo on Thursday April 09, 2026 @06:45PM (#47711255)
Not only that, but Israel financed Hamas to politically destabilize Palestine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_support_for_Hamas