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Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by ai_slop_hater on Monday April 06, 2026 @02:05PM (#47664563)
> This beta header hides thinking from the UI, since most people don't look at it.

I look at it, and I am very upset that I no longer see it.

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by bcherny on Monday April 06, 2026 @02:11PM (#47664656)
There is a setting if you'd like to continue to see it: showThinkingSummaries.

See the docs: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/settings#available-settings

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by starkparker on Monday April 06, 2026 @02:18PM (#47664761)
> Thinking summaries will now appear in the transcript view (Ctrl+O).

Also: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/30958

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by ai_slop_hater on Monday April 06, 2026 @02:23PM (#47664823)
I also have similar experience with their API, i.e. some requests get stalled for minutes with zero events coming in from Anthropic. Presumably the model does this "extended thinking" but no way to see that. I treat these requests as stuck and retry. Same experience in Claude Code Opus 4.6 when effort is set to "high"—the model gets stuck for ten minutes (at which point I cancel) and token count indicator doesn't increase.

I am not buying what this guy says. He is either lying or not telling us everything.

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by antonvs on Monday April 06, 2026 @02:28PM (#47664874)
> As I noted in the comment,

Piece of free PR advice: this is fine in a nerd fight, but don't do this in comments that represent a company. Just repeat the relevant information.

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by bcherny on Monday April 06, 2026 @02:37PM (#47665008)
Fair feedback, edited!
Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by trvz on Monday April 06, 2026 @04:30PM (#47666605)
Piece of free advice towards a better civilisation: people who didn't even read the comment they're replying to shouldn't be rewarded for their laziness.
Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by ai_slop_hater on Monday April 06, 2026 @04:43PM (#47666792)
I read his comment and still replied. I think his claim that nobody reads thinking blocks and that thinking blocks increase latency is nonsense. I am not going to figure out which settings I need to enable because after reading this thread I cancelled my subscription and switched over to Codex. Because I had the exact same experience as many in this thread.

Also what is that "PR advice"—he might as well wear a suit. This is absolutely a nerd fight.

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by ai_slop_hater on Monday April 06, 2026 @05:33PM (#47667470)
Alright, I just tested that setting and it doesn't work.

https://i.imgur.com/MYsDSOV.png

I tested because I was porting memories from Claude Code to Codex, so I might as well test. I obviously still have subscription days remaining.

There is another comment in this thread linking a GitHub issue that discusses this. The GitHub issue this whole HN submission is about even says that Anthropic hides thinking blocks.

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by mlrtime on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @06:49AM (#47673207)
How are you porting over your memories, skills, commands (codex doesn't have commands).
Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by ai_slop_hater on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @11:20AM (#47676766)
I didn't use commands. I only used rules, memories, and skills. I asked Codex to read rules and memories from where Claude Code stores them on the filesystem and merge them into `AGENTS.md` and this actually works better because Anthropic prompts Claude Code to write each memory to a separate file, so you end up having a main MEMORY.md that acts as a kind of directory that lists each individual memory with its file name and brief description, hoping that Claude Code will read them, but the problem is that Claude Code never does. This is the same problem[0] that Vercel had with skills I believe. Skills are easy to port because they appear to use the same format, so you can just do `mv ~/.claude/skills ~/.codex/skills` (or `.agents/skills`).

[0]: https://vercel.com/blog/agents-md-outperforms-skills-in-our-...

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by antonvs on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @02:19PM (#47679265)
What I was pointing out in my comment about the PR advice is that someone responding from a corporation to customers should be providing information to help the customer, nothing more.

Customers may want to fight - you seem to be providing an example - but representatives shouldn't take the bait.

Re:Claude Code is unusable for complex engineering tasks wit... by computerex on Tuesday April 07, 2026 @03:21AM (#47671764)
Wrote my own harness with introspection/long form thinking as a tool that the model can use to plan. Works really well with opus. I can’t use Claude code sadly, it sits there ticking for minutes seemingly doing absolutely nothing although I know it’s working. I hate that as an experience and built my harness with the philosophy of always having something streaming on the ui.

Btw the system prompt length in CC is getting to be insane.