Anyways, this is the start. Companies are adjusting. You hear a lot about layoffs but unemployments. But we're in a high interest environment with disruptions left and right. Companies are trying to figure out what their strategy is going forward.

I don't expect to see a boom in software developer hiring. I think it'll just be flat or small growth.

We are in negative growth, and the current leadership class keeps talking about all the people they can get rid of.

Look at the Atlassian layoff notice yesterday for example where they lied to our faces by saying they were laying off people to invest more in AI but they totally aren’t replacing people with AI.