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Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by smutticus on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:53AM (#4722543)
I use an incognito mode for Facebook. It's called not having a FB account and not allowing any javascript from their domains to run in my browser. Just quit FB if you care about your privacy.

Why go to such lengths to avoid being exploited by a service designed to exploit you? Just stop using it.

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by kghose on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:58AM (#4722369)
I'm sorry, it's a bit early in the morning for me. I browsed the 'about' page and could not understand what the application DOES. I am not about to log into facebook through some application somebody put up randomly on the internet just yet, simply to see for myself. So, to get me started what does this application do? Thanks!
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by darora on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:32AM (#4722476)
Well, quite simply, you can anonymously[1] discuss things with your Facebook friends (or the whole world, if you'd like).

[1]: That is, apart from the login and pulling in your list of friends so as to populate your "Friends' feed", we don't use Facebook IDs or names at all.

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by kghose on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:47AM (#4722528)
Thanks. What is the identity that shows up on the friend's feed? Is it a constant one so that it can be blocked if needed? If one of your friends goes 'rogue' and starts to spam/harrass you through this will you have to systematically unfriend everyone till you find the culprit?

Why would you want to have an anonymous conversation on facebook anyway? Sorry, don't get it.

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by darora on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @09:10AM (#4722616)
The friends' feed (or any other place, for that matter) doesn't show any identities.

For "rogue" friends, we have on our roadmap a mechanism to "flag" users for a review of their postings. That'd trigger an admin banning them if necessary.

The facebook component, is intended to be for a couple of things. Firstly, to allow you to restrict your discussion to just your friends (there are several scenarios in which you'd like their opinions, but you suspect they might not be completely honest with you if you knew who they were). Second, it allows us to be able to keep out bots en masse. The assumption being, of course, that Facebook polices its user-base to keep them out. In turn, the general quality of the discussions stays decent (well, for an anonymous platform, at least).

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by instakill on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:17AM (#4722428)
What's with the astro-turfing comments in this thread?
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by jklio on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:29AM (#4722465)
This is the second time I've seen astro-turfing on HN in as many weeks. On the following thread there were hilariously bad (registered within the hour, first comment on the product "wow great!") fake accounts.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4682896

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by s_henry_paulson on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:32AM (#4722291)
I'm pretty sure the web is already full of anonymous forums where you don't have to give up your identity by signing in with Facebook.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by darora on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:44AM (#4722325)
True. Our reasons for using Facebook were twofold-

* It enables you to talk to your FB friends--a group whose opinion that you probably care about & respect--anonymously, so that they don't have to hold back or sugarcoat things.

* It enables us to ensure a reasonably decent quality on the service, by [hopefully] avoiding too many bots or trolls.

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by true_religion on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:39AM (#4722312)
True, but this is for people who want to be anonymous on facebook.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by olenhad on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:59AM (#4722375)
The idea is, that you want to make statements, but you want people you know to hear them as well. That's why we use facebook's social graph. :)
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by alisnic on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:59AM (#4722564)
The contrast and font size of this site are a total disaster, my eyes are bleeding.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by Osmium on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:00AM (#4722381)
What I'd really like is an extension for a Facebook "read-only" mode, so I can leave myself logged in without worrying about accidentally clicking a "like" button somewhere.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by slig on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:58AM (#4722364)
By logging with fb, your app will have at least my user id and email. Any data breach on your side and all the "anonymous" posts are not so anonymous anymore.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by olenhad on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:09AM (#4722399)
We can assure you from our side, that the way the app is structured, no part aside from login, uses facebook's user ids. We've tried to be very strict about that.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by synor on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:33AM (#4722478)
How do you filter my "own" posts without correlating my Facebook id with a post-author id?
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by olenhad on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:43AM (#4722508)
All user associated data uses our own user ids, not facebook's ids. That includes post author ids.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by synor on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @09:11AM (#4722620)
Your system seems to be able to correlate the FB id and user id on login to filter my own posts and aggregate my friends postings.

Am I wrong to assume that this ability might enable de-anonymization of postings after a server compromise?

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by darora on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @10:19AM (#4722907)
No, you're correct in that assumption.

In case of a complete server breach, that would indeed allow for de-anonymization of posts.

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by fudged71 on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @12:43PM (#4723723)
Most people won't understand what "Flavoured Markdown" means.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by sarhus on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:00AM (#4722380)
you should give the possibility to sign up without a facebook account.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by darora on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:07AM (#4722393)
To be honest, without the facebook integration of being able to talk to _your friends_, there are-as has been pointed out-far too many anonymous forums already.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by sarhus on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:15AM (#4722422)
And that's ok. But you'd like to test:

1) how many people would sign up without a facebook account? 2) how many of them could you "convert" and sign-in again with facebook? (saying something like "ok..now, how about you use your facebook account to [blabla] with your friends on facebook?

I'd say people are more willing to give it a try and see how it looks without passing facebook credentials first... That's just my hint..

Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by darora on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:29AM (#4722466)
Hmm. I'm beginning to suspect that you're right. We'll be looking into implementing this. Thanks
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by laurenceputra on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:35AM (#4722486)
4chan with facebook login?
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by dariuscheung on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:58PM (#4725660)
now we can all bitch about that friend together digitally.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by redDragon on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:30AM (#4722285)
pretty cool idea :D !
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by thesleeper on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:54AM (#4722345)
i say Yes.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by chinab91 on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:00AM (#4722378)
nice work!
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by pbear on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:54AM (#4722346)
Super awesome! Finally I can express my opinions without offending sponsors and the like.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by pbear on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @07:56AM (#4722359)
Awesome idea! Now I can make honest comments and opinions that won't offend the wrong people!
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by davebees on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:10AM (#4722401)
Did you just make two separate comments praising this, both within two minutes of registering?
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by instakill on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:17AM (#4722431)
There look to be a lot of new accounts all praising this.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by olenhad on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:54AM (#4722547)
My suspicion is that he got too used to hush...
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by pbear on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @09:22PM (#4725716)
Sorry about that. I'm new to this and it looked like my first posting did not get through so I posted again. My bad.
Re:Show HN: Hush, an "incognito mode for Facebook" by testing12341234 on Wednesday October 31, 2012 @08:59AM (#4722565)
Possibly some astroturfing to get this pushed to the front page.

Edit: Which has apparently worked.