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Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by RobotToaster on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:59AM (#47216368)
The market for programs like revanced is pretty big, that's why Google is going to remove "sideloading". At which point there will be a large market for an open phone that allows the user to install what they want.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by LtWorf on Monday March 02, 2026 @06:34AM (#47216640)
As long as the banking apps and such work.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by coldtea on Monday March 02, 2026 @06:38AM (#47216679)
Banks shouldn't have custom apps that are not mobile websites, accessible via the mobile browser just as well.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by actionfromafar on Monday March 02, 2026 @07:09AM (#47216974)
Apparently there are special auth apps storing things in secure-enclave-ish parts of the OS. Not a great match for websites.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by cogman10 on Monday March 02, 2026 @08:52AM (#47217962)
No, that's just BS.

The web has a secure storage standard and OAuth + MFA is just as secure as anything your bank could cook up in an app. In fact, I'd be shocked if banks did a better job of security in their apps vs what browsers and standard auth flows provide.

Banks just like selling the idea that "if it's encrypted, it's secure". But trust me when I say this, bank security across the board absolutely sucks. The company I work with does financial data ingest and... yeah... There's more than a few institutions where we had to pull teeth to get them to send stuff through an encrypted transport (SFTP, for example, they want to just use FTP).

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by coldtea on Monday March 02, 2026 @11:42AM (#47220363)
The OS/browser could give this capability to web apps via an API.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by j_maffe on Monday March 02, 2026 @01:13PM (#47221753)
That would be a breeding ground for malware.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by coldtea on Monday March 02, 2026 @02:41PM (#47223040)
The capability to ...read their own keys that they set up?
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by LtWorf on Monday March 02, 2026 @02:32PM (#47222940)
You mean like the android play store already is?
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by fsflover on Monday March 02, 2026 @06:47AM (#47216763)
When my bank didn't support my phone, I switched the bank, not the phone.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by LtWorf on Monday March 02, 2026 @09:04AM (#47218095)
That is sensible. In sweden there's 1 single app to authenticate yourself. Strictly speaking the bank does work without, but A LOT of other stuff doesn't, making life very hard.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by fsflover on Monday March 02, 2026 @09:05AM (#47218106)
Perhaps you can't get the freedom without fighting for it?
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by LtWorf on Monday March 02, 2026 @09:40AM (#47218528)
People do need to rent apartments and such things, it gets cold in sweden.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by antiframe on Monday March 02, 2026 @10:11AM (#47218972)
I think they meant that if there is a single identity app you should petition your government to require it to run on any mobile phone rather than require one or two American companies to dictate what it can run on. Or better yet, allow people without mobile phones to also be able to rent apartments.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by krs_ on Monday March 02, 2026 @05:39PM (#47225210)
BankID was working just fine when I was experimenting with LineageOS without Google apps (incidentally, on a Motorola phone) last year. It is something I worry about though, seeing as they could easily stop that from working and there's no real alternative.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by RobGR on Monday March 02, 2026 @11:24AM (#47220092)
This could develop into a chance for a crypto wallet to shine.