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Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by TacticalCoder on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:19PM (#47146050)
> Don’t forget the “all they have to do is return the hostages” line

So there's zero link whatsoever between Hamas executing 1200 civilians on Oct 7th, taking 200 hostages, and the following war (and war crimes) of Israel?

Israel literally unilaterally began a war and committed war crimes without any act of aggression?

And from the moment 200 hostages had been taken, many of whom died in captivity, everything was carved in stone and no matter what Hamas did, Israel was going anyway to war and to commit war crimes?

Or did something happen on Oct 7th that triggered all this?

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by austin-cheney on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @09:08PM (#47146403)
Actually a large number of those 1200 were killed by Israeli incendiary rounds fired from helicopters due to Operation Hannibal. It’s why the estimates kept getting rounded down from an initial 1500, because many of the bodies were too badly incinerated to be counted accurately.
Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by ceejayoz on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @09:19PM (#47146482)
This is a wild enough sounding claim it deserves a cite.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-07/israel-hannibal-direc...

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by karim79 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @11:58PM (#47147512)
The Hannibal directive or the more recent Dayiha Doctrine[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by BurningFrog on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:03PM (#47146768)
The investigation into this found 14 deaths from Hannibal Directive actions. Mostly firing on vehicles carrying hostages.

Report: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/coi-report-a-hrc-56-26-2...

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by ceejayoz on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:11PM (#47146823)
Keep reading, you're missing the next sentences.

> The Commission also verified information indicating that, in at least two other cases, ISF had likely applied the Hannibal Directive, resulting in the killing of up to 14 Israeli civilians. One woman was killed by ISF helicopter fire while being abducted from Nir Oz to Gaza by militants. In another case the Commission found that Israeli tank fire killed some or all of the 13 civilian hostages held in a house in Be’eri.

> The Commission found that Israeli authorities prioritised identifying victims, notifying families and allowing for burial rather than forensic investigation, leading to evidence of crimes, especially sexual crimes, not being collected and preserved. The Commission also notes the loss of potential evidence due to inadequately trained first responders.

(That I'm completely fine with. But it presents challenges for verifying incidents, which probably means it's an undercount.)

> Mostly firing on vehicles carrying hostages.

That is the Hannibal Directive; "the kidnapping must be stopped by all means, even at the price of striking and harming our own forces". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by xg15 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @09:08PM (#47146401)
If they wanted to go after Hamas, why did they employ methods of combat that were guaranteed to affect civilians, like cutting off the entire strip from food supply?

Or the massacre that this thread is about for that matter?

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by harimau777 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:55PM (#47146324)
The issue isn't whether or not Israel started it. It's the genocide they did once it started.
Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by TurdF3rguson on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:12PM (#47146830)
It's really about motive and targeting. Were they trying to get the hostages back or just kill people randomly? Were they targeting Hamas or aid workers?
Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by avh02 on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @04:26AM (#47149314)
Cool, now justify the things happening in the west bank. Israel so peaceful, coexists with neighbors.