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Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by pear01 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:05PM (#47145938)
And that was true when we built things too. So what point are you making? If only FDR was an engineer then maybe we would have ramped up production and taken on the Axis across two oceans. Like I just don't get it.

Sure Xi and some other senior leadership in China studied as an engineer. He also studied Marxism and lived abroad in Iowa of all places. The world is too complicated for this type of analysis, sorry. Dan Wang does the same spiel on every podcast and it is always terrible and seems predicated on credulous hosts who know little about the history of either country and certainly not enough about both who just use his lame analysis to engage in this current fad of Western self-pity. Instead of reform and asking hard questions let's just throw soft balls at Dan Wang's cheap analysis that anyone with a Wikipedia level education would know is absurd so we can keep propping up the same impoverished China v America tropes.

Why don't we demand better honestly we should be ashamed that one guy can just come up with such a dubious thesis suddenly appear everywhere and no credible debate or pushback once. The only thing Dan Wang convinces me of is the poverty of the modern intellectual environment.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by shimman on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:40PM (#47146215)
These people are just trying to find an alternative narrative because the vast majority of the population have been rejecting neoliberalism for a good 30 years now. So they spin up the foreign enemy is better than us, so we need to deregulate more and not hold monopolies accountable.

If we broke up Google or Amazon, suddenly we're just as bad as China!

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by HeWhoLurksLate on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:27PM (#47146922)
why can't we go "wow they're getting really good, maybe we should invest harder in education and research?" That makes wayyy more sense to me
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by jacquesm on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:51PM (#47147090)
Because it would first require one to acknowledge that they are no longer ahead. In some cultures this sort of thing is extremely difficult.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by harrall on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @02:47AM (#47148620)
In humans*
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by maxweylandt on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @02:48AM (#47148624)
Comedian Ronny Chieng has a bit about this: (sorry for short) https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1cmCueTZz1A
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by _DeadFred_ on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @12:07PM (#47154315)
In the west greater education doesn't lead to people wanting to live in a factory compound in communal dorms with suicide nets where they can be woken up at midnight to start a shift on a whim. Doesn't lead to people wanting to eat all their meals in a cafeteria with the other people on their shift. The factories I visited even their children went to school in a school within the compound.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by yareally on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @11:32PM (#47147376)
Coincidentally, FDR's predecesor was an engineer and we know how that presidency went (not that it was entirely his fault, but he didn't make things better either)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#Mining_engineer

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by FeloniousHam on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @11:36AM (#47153892)