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Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by mlsu on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:42PM (#47145177)
Have you met an engineer? I'd say "being an engineer" is probably the single most predictive trait for authoritarianism in my experience.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by nerdsniper on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:47PM (#47145792)
As an engineer, I do think there’s some mild but noticeable correlation in bulk. But there are other categories which would be much more predictive. And most of the correlation with engineers are actually a confounder effect from things like multigenerational socioeconomic status, or religion.

If you were to control for other variables I doubt there’d be much correlation. After filtering out engineers who belong to other categories with stronger associations to authoritarianism, you’re more likely to be left with the hyper-individual-freedom types than the hyper-authoritarian types.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by lkbm on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:01PM (#47145359)
Possibly, but it's just as much a predictive trait of being libertarian, which for all its faults, is extremely anti-authoritarian.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by bb88 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:11PM (#47145449)
Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. --Lord Acton.

It's not really so much one's belief system as it is what happens when one gets power -- and that's hard to predict regardless of the ideology.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by galangalalgol on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:06PM (#47145949)
Not really. Seeing what people do when they get power is as predictable as what they do when given meth.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by nerdsniper on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:39PM (#47146197)
Eh. Maybe. But I do see people who are pretty consistent when they have power. It may be somewhat unpredictable before they get power, but somewhat more predictable once you’ve seen how they act with it.

This principle of relative consistency is baked into how I test employees for management and friends for trust, and in the past, roommates as well. Though I do acknowledge potential for growth as well, but in my older age I generally also need to see evidence of motivation to give strong benefit of the doubt wrt possible trajectory.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by SlightlyLeftPad on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:14PM (#47145480)
Except in 21st Century America, where libertarian is really just masked authoritarian. Essentially, that means “free to do whatever you want as long as it’s our way.”
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by red-iron-pine on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @02:51PM (#47156873)
"i hate the gub'ment esp. the way evil mega-corporations tell me to"
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by eli_gottlieb on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @08:41PM (#47146218)
Libertarianism is just privatized authoritarianism.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by cherrycherry98 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @09:22PM (#47146502)
Libertarian principles encourage relationships built on mutual consenting parties rather than coercion. This implies that both parties have the freedom to choose. Imagine being stuck with a small dating pool of undesirable partners, the choices may not be good but that doesn't make it authoritarian.
Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by jfengel on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @09:13PM (#47146437)
When libertarian means liberty for everyone, it's anti-authoritarian.

Too often libertarian means liberty for me and not for you. That's authoritarian.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by lnsru on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @02:59AM (#47148686)
I am electrical engineer and electrician working in regulated areas. In both areas the frameworks limits my choices and obviously I am very authoritarian. There is no room for discussion. If I need a DC DC converter for 2 amps I will pick one rated for 4 amps. No discussions! If I need to install a heat pump 60 feet away I will pick 5x6 square millimeter cable and all the circuit breakers from installation manual. There are no options or opinions. I communicate this in polite way to the clients.

And this flows in other areas. If I need a functional vehicle with cheap upkeep I optimize for it. I invest in low risk products since the income is limited. I know that people with plan and confidence are scary, you don’t meet them every day.

Re:Apple Accelerates US Manufacturing by throw0101a on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @09:08AM (#47151673)
There's a decent amount of research that finds a correlation between engineering degrees and terrorists:

> According to two European social scientists working in Britain, Italian Diego Gambetta and German Steffen Hertog, who present their case in Engineers of Jihad: The Curious Connection between Violent Extremism and Education, the presence of engineers among known Islamist extremists is 14 times greater than can be explained by random distribution. It was a finding the authors reached with caution and even a certain resistance. “We are social scientists,” Hertog explains in an interview, “so we are always seeking socio-economic explanations. We accepted this idea that there might be personality traits, expressed first in choice of profession and then in political ideology, very reluctantly.”

* https://macleans.ca/news/world/why-do-so-many-jihadis-have-e...

> This article demonstrates that individuals with an engineering education are three to four times more frequent among violent Islamists worldwide than other degree holders. We then test a number of hypotheses to account for this phenomenon. We argue that a combination of two factors – engineers’ relative deprivation in the Islamic world and mindset – is the most plausible explanation.

* https://researchonline.lse.ac.uk/id/eprint/29836/1/Why_are_t...

* https://spectrum.ieee.org/extremist-engineers