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Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by Zigurd on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:38AM (#47122911)
No, it isn't "smarter." Camera-only driving is the product of a stubborn dogmatic boss who can't admit a fundamental error. "Just make it work" is a terrible approach to engineering.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by RockRobotRock on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:47AM (#47123015)
Can hatred of Musk not derail this entire thread please? I have a camera-only ADAS that I think works quite well, but having both would be better.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by Zigurd on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:52AM (#47123053)
Shoe, meet foot.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by RockRobotRock on Monday February 23, 2026 @09:56AM (#47123095)
I don't know what that means
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by BugsJustFindMe on Monday February 23, 2026 @12:35PM (#47125617)
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by RockRobotRock on Monday February 23, 2026 @01:19PM (#47126379)
Oh, that's silly. I don't own a Tesla. I just wanna talk about LIDAR without people ragebaiting about Elon.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by BugsJustFindMe on Monday February 23, 2026 @01:33PM (#47126609)
> without people ragebaiting about Elon

Hmm. Is it ragebaiting to respond to a tired and wrong statement by saying that it's tired and wrong and that the situation is merely the product of piss poor management decisions? People get understandably frustrated seeing the same wrong talking point that people with domain knowledge in computer vision and robotics have repeatedly explained is wrong in extremely fundamental ways.

> I don't own a Tesla.

n.b. The shoe/foot comment was not about you. It was about Musk. It wouldn't make any idiomatic sense for the expression to be about you given what you said and what you were responding to. If they'd said "pot, meet kettle", then it would have been about you. In that context, saying that you don't own a Tesla feels like a weird thing for you to insert in your comment. It potentially comes across as suspiciously defensive.

Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by RockRobotRock on Monday February 23, 2026 @05:19PM (#47129806)
suspiciously defensive??? you got me. Or maybe I just didn't understand their comment.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by BugsJustFindMe on Monday February 23, 2026 @06:11PM (#47130390)
I'm just trying to help you out here, friend.
Re:Sub-$200 Lidar Could Reshuffle Auto Sensor Economics by nutjob2 on Monday February 23, 2026 @11:12AM (#47124301)
Criticism of Musk isn't hate of Musk. The point is completely valid and the results of this management style infuses all of his businesses albeit with differing results.

It's significant that a truly hard problem like autonomous driving doesn't respond to a "brute force" management style. Rockets aren't in this category because the required knowledge and theory is fairly complete, whereas real autonomous driving is completely novel.