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Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by vondur on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:34PM (#47052000)
That is probably true, but if they are selling at a loss, it can only go on for so long.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by mdavid626 on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:35PM (#47052010)
Ukraine might have less time than Russia does. Russia only has to survive 1 day more.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by dijit on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:43PM (#47052144)
I agree with your point overall but realistically speaking, its not like the death of Ukraine will fix Russias economy, even if it did: not in a single day.

You can exhaust yourself completely and be dead on your feet.

Doomed, is the expression.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by nradov on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:27PM (#47052844)
There is a strain of thought in Russian political circles that they'll be doomed anyway due to lack of defensible borders if they fail to capture Ukraine. This could explain some of their actions that otherwise seem irrational and counterproductive.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by gzread on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @08:22PM (#47055821)
It doesn't seem to make any sense: nobody was invading Russia until Russia decided part of Ukraine was Russia (and then Ukraine invaded it), and why would Ukraine be a more defensible border than the actual border? Ukraine borders NATO, after all.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by nradov on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @08:55PM (#47056119)
From the Russian perspective it actually does make a bit of sense, in a twisted sort of way. They were invaded from the west before, most recently by Hitler and before that by Napoleon. There are no good natural defenses to protect Moscow and so they seek to establish defense in depth with additional buffer territory. (I write this not to justify recent Russian acts of aggression but to explain some of their internal strategic thinking.)
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by kergonath on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:53PM (#47052303)
Ukraine is also very hard to completely destroy, either militarily or economically. And Ukraine is in an existential struggle, I don’t see the Ukrainians caving.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by drysine on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @04:04AM (#47058882)
>And Ukraine is in an existential struggle, I don’t see the Ukrainians caving.

Only the current regime is in existential struggle. This why it closed the borders[0] and kidnaps men on the streets[1] to send to the front line.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_conscription_crisis#...

[1] https://busification.org/

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by neocron on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:24PM (#47052799)
But then what, become a part of China? I don't think Russia could defend themselves from an attack of a lesser nation right now, and I truly wish one of them would take opportunity
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by wiseowise on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:40PM (#47053004)
They still have nukes.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by ponector on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @05:08PM (#47054108)
China doesn't need to attach Russia. Just close the borders for all trade and Russia will implode within a year.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by nradov on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @11:45PM (#47057260)
China doesn't want Russia to implode. That would only create problems for no real gain. But they'll take advantage of Russia's weakness to get cheap raw materials and perhaps some territorial concessions.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by don_esteban on Thursday February 19, 2026 @03:20AM (#47071267)
Why would China do that?

They know they are next on the chopping block.

They need Russia to guard their back, the last thing they need is a USA-friendly regime in Russia.

You are all talking about 'just a bit longer and Russia will implode'. Look at the state of Ukraine, who is going to implode sooner, Russia or Ukraine?

Heck, look at the state of Europe and USA! USA is a political nutcase, and Europe has deep divisions and is overflowing with incompetence and impotence. Plus enormous debts, both in USA and in Europe.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by squidbeak on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:48PM (#47052222)
Why do you imagine Ukraine's desire for sovereignty would be exhausted before Russia's stomach for economic hardship? Do you really think the Russia public has the stamina even for the 4 more years it will take them to capture the rest of Donbas?
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by mdavid626 on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:51PM (#47052268)
Russia doesn’t have any other choice, than to continue.

Same applies for the West.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by pjc50 on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:57PM (#47052380)
Russia can retreat inside its internationally recognized borders and negotiate a ceasefire at any time.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by Etherlord87 on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:29PM (#47052863)
russia has a choice. putin doesn't.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by squidbeak on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:55PM (#47052331)
Russia could end the war today if it wanted to.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by mdavid626 on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @02:59PM (#47052423)
Same for the West.

If they do, they loose. That sets their position in the world.

Who’d fear them? They can’t even win over a country which is much smaller and weaker than they are.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by squidbeak on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:07PM (#47052555)
How can the West end the war today?
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by gzread on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @08:23PM (#47055828)
It could end the war quickly by nuking Ukraine, but I don't think that was the meaning behind the GP.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by wiseowise on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:42PM (#47053030)
Russia has almost 1 million casualties, West hasn’t even arrived.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by nradov on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:15PM (#47052671)
Huh? Which "West" are you referring to? No NATO member state has invaded any Russian sovereign territory.
Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by AnimalMuppet on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @03:28PM (#47052853)
Who fears, say, Canada? Lots of countries go on perfectly well without being feared. Russia could, too.

The problem isn't Russia, inherently. The problem is Putin. He cannot survive (probably literally) without being feared.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by fatbird on Tuesday February 17, 2026 @08:07PM (#47055710)
Every day that passes, Ukraine gets stronger: more domestic defense production of what's currently the cutting edge of warfare; deeper financial integration and relationships with Europe; more aid lined up; European powers taking more responsibility for supporting Ukraine and seeing it win, not just survive. They have the largest and most competent army in Europe that's fought Russia to a standstill.

Every day that passes, Russia gets weaker: more oil sold in crude form only, since they don't have refining capacity to export gasoline; foreign currency reserves shrinking, since China is their main customer; another 35k casualties every month, with mounting costs for enlistment bonuses and death benefits; outer provinces stripped of men of fighting age, North Korea unwilling to send more soldiers, African recruits drying up; inflation raging, industries shutting down, and all economic indicators heading south.

It's terrible that Ukraine is trapped in this slugfest, but at this point, time favours Ukraine.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by don_esteban on Thursday February 19, 2026 @03:31AM (#47071354)
Can I have the good stuff you are smoking?

Ukraine domestic defense production has the slight problem of being continuously bombed, lacking manpower, reliable (or any!) electricity. Are you sure it is growing? Perhaps explosively...

Their largest and most competent army is mostly dead and maimed, they rely on catching unwilling men on the streets and herding them to the front. You believe 35k Russian casualties each month, and at the same time you believe Ukrainian official figures of 55k casualties overall, right?

European powers taking responsibility for supporting Ukraine by continuously arguing where/how should they get emergency funds to 'lend' to Ukraine, so its finances do not collapse within the next 2 month.

Man, how can you believe this nonsense?

Time does not favour Ukraine. It does not favour Russia (or Europe) either, it favours mostly China.

Re:Russia's economy has entered the death zone by fatbird on Friday February 20, 2026 @02:16AM (#47084756)
It produces its own Neptune cruise missiles (100+), and developed the Flamingo cruise missile. It has its own self-propelled howitzer, and has built more than 200 to date. It rebuilt its bullet manufacturing, replacing the loss of its luhansk facility. They've massively expanded domestic production of 155mm shells.

Whether or not it's under constant bombardment, Ukraine is now supplying 50% of its consumable supplies; in 2022, it was under 5%. Ukraine actually exports some weapons and drone tech to finance other purchases.

Its manpower crisis has been continually overstated by Russian propaganda. At the moment, they have 800k+ in their army. They rejected a bill recently to lower the conscription age to 25 from 27. They have an untapped pool of manpower aged 18-27 that they're avoiding if possible (as has been possible so far).

Whether or not Europeans are arguing a lot, they're still providing massive material and financial aid to Ukraine, which still has a functioning economy and social welfare system. Their gov't pensions go out on time and in full. They're not experiencing hyperinflation. There's a reason that Ukrainians as a population aren't willing to accept the kind of crap settlements Trump is pushing.

> Man, how can you believe this nonsense?

You're the one spouting Russian disinformation, especially after looking at your other comments. If you're not getting paid for this, you should be.