1) Yes, extensively aided and funded, no matter how you try to avoid this fact 2) Russia has more sanctions applied that any country ever did. 3) Still it is Russia gaining land and NATO ally, which runs on NATO money and NATO weapons, retreating. 4) NATO has arrived indeed. NATO ally (or protectorate) has huge and obvious manpower loss.

> Yes, extensively aided and funded, no matter how you try to avoid this fact

I literally gave you the number, this is the fact: West has provided less than percent of their economies over 5 years.

> Russia has more sanctions applied that any country ever did.

That's what attacking your neighbour does, yes. And it's far, far from 'all it can' part.

> Still it is Russia gaining land and NATO ally, which runs on NATO money and NATO weapons, retreating.

Russia took less than percent of Ukrainian soil every year after initial shock gains. This is hilariously bad performance for the great power that fights against donated scraps. It's not even high end tech (F-35s, last gen Euro-fighters).

> NATO has arrived indeed. NATO ally (or protectorate) has huge and obvious manpower loss.

Does NATO know it has arrived?

You seem to believe the West is doing very little to help Ukraine. You say they only contribute a tiny fraction of their economy, but you ignore that that fraction is coming on top of their own budgets which are already quite constrained as well as increased spending on their own militaries due to the situation + pressure by the US, and that many countries, especially Germany, lost an enormous amount of money by becoming severely less competitive after rejecting Russian oil and gas , which had made energy prices much lower before the war. What do you think Europe can do more? Do you support tax hikes to allow more money to be sent? Do you want a direct military involvement and are you prepared to be drafted, or have your children be, to the front lines, even if that means direct attacks by drones/missiles on many of your cities in retaliation ? Most people answer no to those questions, otherwise they would be demanding that and in a democracy people do get what they want if the majority agrees, yet we don’t see anyone in Europe going to the streets or even signing major petitions or anything like that!

GP said Western block (+1bn people) are fighting with Ukrainians against Russians which is factually incorrect. Everything in your comment about my assumptions is just a figment of your imagination.

> Do you support tax hikes to allow more money to be sent? Do you want a direct military involvement and are you prepared to be drafted, or have your children be, to the front lines, even if that means direct attacks by drones/missiles on many of your cities in retaliation ? Most people answer no to those questions, otherwise they would be demanding that and in a democracy people do get what they want if the majority agrees, yet we don’t see anyone in Europe going to the streets or even signing major petitions or anything like that!

I see, another one. I must've rattled the hive with my comment, haha.

The Western block is indeed fighting with Russia using Ukraine as a proxy/protectorate. Whats more, the Western block also openly states that.

Grow up buddy, not everyone who disagrees with your contradictory, cartoonish view of the situation is a troll or whatever you choose to believe.

1) The West did all it could. As in any conflict. 2) The way you call Himars, ATACMS missiles, Storm Shadow/Scalp, Bradleys, SAM Patriot with PAC-3 'donated crap' is fun. These are the actual modern weapons. Not something old. Current and up to date. 4) Of course it knows. They've lost lots of modern weapons and lots of manpower. Your protectorate's manpower is your asset. It is not free.

Don’t feed the troll.

An easy way to dismiss an opinion you do not like. Why exactly are you calling me a troll?

Because your first comment is inflammatory, and wrong.

Ukraine is far from being a "weaker neighbor" – it's proven to have more of a backbone than all of NATO.

And that "loosing land" part which seems so compelling: those are strategic withdrawals, forcing russians to haemorrhage men and equipment for Pyrrhic advances. Right now, those advances are being reversed: AFU is making significant gains around Zaporizhzhia, and massing troops near Kharkiv for possibly another major offensive.

1. Ukraine is merely a manforce provider. NATO does everything else. 2. Loosing land is pure math. About 500 sq.km per month, often more. Ukrainian advances remain to be an illusion.

> Ukraine is merely a manforce provider. NATO does everything else.

So Soviet “heroes” were just a manforce and USSR was a manforce provider for lend lease, right?