Not to mention collecting them at all means those servers are a primo location for state actors to stage themselves to make copies of data before being deleted.

To say nothing of insider threats of which likely exist across every major social media platform in service to foreign govs.

It was this deep into the thread when I decided I don’t think I need internet service this bad, let alone Discord. I think I’m out. Let us know how it goes!

All of these types of developments, of the trap door starting to close, really do totally depend on the addiction, the dependency that was created to make sure the people would be unable to withdraw themselves. We now have some generations of people who have only been online and in a fantasy world of games and “TV”. It seems the system has calculated that we have crossed the threshold after which the system is self-reinforcing and there is very little chance of effective resistance, let alone reversal.

I think you may be attributing far too much malice of forethought to any them that may be conspiring to design the 'system'

Everyone thought that we were designing the system, but it's really been the system designing us.

(Only half joking; the medium is the message, and changes us as much as we change it)

malice aforethought

I’m not sure how to really get this point across, but you would be very incorrect believing that and I have first hand knowledge of that.

Yes, it’s not a waterfall methodology/system like some Soviet central committee planned economy, but what else do you call things like the kill list board meetings of the Obama administration, if not malicious and with forethought? They had lists, they decided on who to murder, they broke to accomplish their weekly objectives and then they reported on their progress every week. And that’s just a tiny snowflake on top of the iceberg of what is available for anyone in the public all around the world to know, even without any kind of special access other than an open mind willing to accept reality that is not what one was told it is from childhood on. You know, when people are the most vulnerable and easily manipulated, the MO of the people like Epstein.

Is not even that the information needed to understand these things are not all there in public agreed caps leaks and releases, it’s just that most people seem to just want to accept that 2+2=5 and in exchange live a life they believe is a good deal from the devil.

You seem to represent one of those people who has no idea what you are a part of, similar to how an animal born into a zoo is quite content since all his needs are met. That animal cannot understand any bigger context, because all it’s ever known is that cage it’s always been in all your conscious existence.

All the information you need is publicly available to you even without any clearances, on the internet (for the time being). What is your excuse for not knowing, e.g., that effectively all NGOs are a tool of the CIA? Or what else would you call the Obama kill list meetings where, just like how you may have weekly sprints, they picked from a backlog and then killed them and reported back on progress; if not malicious and with forethought?

Reality simply is that the majority of people are like those peasant masses that applauded Obama at the Winter Olympics; the same malicious, deliberate murderer with forethought and with a kill list that we know he was. What are you?

> write a mildly unhinged internet comment that tries to shame people for not knowing the true conspiracy all around them. Use themes like sheeple and kill squads. Explicitly call out Obama and only Obama and make sure you repeat one claim about Obama at least three times.

> Not to mention collecting them at all means those servers are a primo location for state actors to stage themselves to make copies of data before being deleted.

Not to nitpick, but in this case they'd be collecting data they already own.

The feds don't own state IDs in the US, at least.

1. Foreign state actors

2. Inter-hostile agencies within the u.s.

In addition to the sibling comments, even if they do own the ID itself, they do not own the association with Discord users, and the ID might also be faked.

For state actors - they frequently have issues "connecting the dots". Or heck - maybe connecting the dots is easy but it's a manual process that introduces too much friction for them to do casually. Maybe some of the data they connect it with is not trustworthy.

If the dots already come pre-connected, it makes the job easier.

Not to mention its value as blackmail material shoots up because it comes pre-associated with your government ID and/or a scan of your face because fewer sources/methods need to be risked.

I am pretty sure US gov doesn't have my id.

Weird that I have to get a list of all the cookie vendors that know I visit a website to show me an ad about something I already bought but the guys with my ID don't need to be listed.

Under GDPR they need to be listed.

GDPR isn't a cookie law — it's a PII law. They need to tell you all parties that get your ID picture, or they're in breach.

GDPR is not a PII law. The term is not mentioned once in GDPR. GDPR speaks of "personal data", which as Wikipedia puts it "is significantly broader".

Doesn't PII, mean personal information which is is another term for personal data?

Personally Identifiable Information is about data that can identify you personally. Personal data might be something you don't want to share but is not necessarily identifying you

"We delete them immediately after we have sold them to our 579 parters"

Vendors like that would be in deep GDPR shit if they claim to not store highly sensitive data and then do in fact store highly sensitive data.

Generally the GDPR is not rigorously enforced, but when it comes to sensitive data like face scans, IDs, medical data etc. the hammer comes down a lot swifter and harder.

GDPR does not stop a breach.

Discord already lost user IDs. Will GDPR delete them from the darknet?

> Also, _Discord_ deleting them is really only half the battle; random vendors deleting them remains an issue.

This really is the issue. Of the 5 or so data breach notifications I received last year, none are from an entity I have a direct relationship with. They're all from a vendor used directly or indirectly by these entities.

The real answer is more serious penalties for having data breaches. Having 6 concurrent "identity monitoring" services is of zero value to me.