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Re:iPad mini by tharris0101 on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @03:52PM (#4690046)
I couldn't have said it better myself. I'd never use this product but I'm sure it will do great.

I've been really critical of Apple lately, but I can't find any reason to get upset over this announcement. I find it funny how people are railing against this announcement just because its not useful to them. There are a million different needs and uses out there for different people.

Re:iPad mini by mark_l_watson on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @05:39PM (#4690474)
You triggered something: I have been wondering why Apple does not have iPads support multiple user accounts that are easy to switch between? With iCloud, it would seem reasonable for a family to have a min, a standard iPad, and perhaps a future "iPad whopper" (with perhaps a 14 inch screen). They could be left laying around the house and anyone could just pick up the appropriate device as-needed.

I can answer my own question: Apple doesn't want people to share these devices: fewer sales.

Re:iPad mini by Tyrannosaurs on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @06:10PM (#4690612)
Another option: it's a niche issue.

Not saying they won't look at it in the future but We have a family iPad and its no problem. My wife can see my email but she's my wife so I honestly don't care. Our neighbours have two between six of them and similarly have no issues.

People with a tech background worry about this more than most people but they also tend to be the sort of people who have their own devices. For normal families the current situation is a relatively minor problem - considerably less of an issue than both kids wanting it at once I suggest.

Re:iPad mini by dagw on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @07:44AM (#4692474)
I'm not mainly 'worried' about my girlfriend, but my daughter. Having a locked down account where internet is permanently off , only certain programs are shown, and where she can't delete icons would be great.
Re:iPad mini by Tyrannosaurs on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @11:31AM (#4693361)
General > Restrictions will give you most of what you want (deleting icons, stopping changes to contacts and so on). Set up a profile in there which you enable when you hand the phone over.

I also tend to enable Airplane mode by default when I hand my phone or iPad to my daughters.

Re:iPad mini by tharris0101 on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @09:25PM (#4691211)
I totally agree with you, and I don't see it changing.

Apple has trapped itself into a corner with the Apple ID. Apple puts on regular seminars for local school districts every 6 months or so in my area about how to integrate iPads for K12, and it is just brutal. At least 60% of the answers from the Apple rep is usually "you can't use it like that".

The hardships all come from the way that the Apple ID works. Apple wants the iPad to be a "personal device" for one person, but obviously in a school setting it doesn't work that way. The workarounds they have for school districts are laughable to the point that the Apple rep(s) always admit it to us when talking about manageability, security and tracking.

I love my iPad, but its just not enterprise/public school/multiuser friendly yet.

Re:iPad mini by jpxxx on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @01:36AM (#4691749)
Agree so much. Apple ID hell is a Real World Problem and I suspect making real changes to how it all works would take some herculean efforts - daunting even for Apple.
Re:iPad mini by jonnathanson on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @07:26PM (#4690880)
"I can answer my own question: Apple doesn't want people to share these devices: fewer sales."

Bingo.

Apple wants people to share iPads only to the extent that doing so gives other people a trial of the product, and ideally, a burning desire for it. Apple doesn't want the kids sharing Mom's iPad; Apple wants kids bugging Mom half to death for their own iPads.

Re:iPad mini by StavrosK on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @06:33PM (#4690694)
Android 4.2 will have that feature, incidentally. I can't wait.
Re:iPad mini by sixothree on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @05:58PM (#4690566)
I find not having user accounts drastically reduces how much the iPad gets used in my house. In my case, I'm sure this affects sales in the app store.
Re:iPad mini by wlesieutre on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @06:30PM (#4690683)
Maybe this is cynical of me, but I think the preferred solution (from Apple's perspective) is to buy more iPads.
Re:iPad mini by GoyGenius on Thursday October 25, 2012 @08:54AM (#4697397)
It isn't cynical in the slightest. That is simply the game.
Re:iPad mini by mark-r on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @07:53PM (#4690954)
The sale of one iPad makes up for a LOT of lost sales in the app store. I'm sure it doesn't bother them yet.
Re:iPad mini by MatthewPhillips on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @04:17PM (#4690151)
A. A person thinks a product is underwhelming. B. That same product sells very well.

A and B do not contradict. B does not invalidate A.

Re:iPad mini by mikeash on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @05:27PM (#4690423)
That depends on context. A often comes with an implied, "underwhelming for everybody and thus it won't sell well."
Re:iPad mini by MatthewPhillips on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @08:47AM (#4692640)
No, it doesn't. You are inserting that implication so that you can poison-the-well on like-opinions later.
Re:iPad mini by mikeash on Wednesday October 24, 2012 @02:59PM (#4694463)
Please. While I'm sure people just talk about their own opinions in many cases, it also happens all the time that people criticize the specs or other attributes of a new product precisely because they think it won't appeal to the masses.