Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by rusk on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @08:04AM
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I love that book but isn’t it nearly 30 years old?
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by pjmlp on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @08:46AM
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And yet many of the pain points are still kind of relevant, go figure.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by fsflover on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @06:40AM
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I'm not talking about the OS though but about the approach.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by pjmlp on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @07:24AM
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Goes to both, otherwise UNIX authors would not have tried to improve their creations, working on successors to both UNIX and C.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by krautburglar on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @09:53AM
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But that book is a waste. It is just MIT dunning-krugerites who were salty that LISP machines never took off. When it comes to real life, the bell labs approach won, and for several good reasons. Not "worse is better" (another dunning-krugerite cope), but "less is more."
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by pjmlp on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @11:31AM
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Turns out free beer is great, even when it is warm.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by its_magic on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @01:10PM
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The only good beer is warm beer. If the beer tastes like shit when it's warm, it's not good beer.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by krautburglar on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @03:58PM
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From your perspective, what would be an "OS done right"? I have a running list of things I would change in Unix, but replacing sysvinit with systemd's one-ring-to-rule-them-all would not be on it.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by prathamtharwani on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @10:12AM
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But your comment is a waste. It is just HN dunning-krugerites who were salty that the UNIX way never took off. When it comes to real life, the Poettering approach won, and for several good reasons.
Re:Linux From Scratch ends SysVinit support
by krautburglar on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @03:47PM
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The UNIX way is still doing fine on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD, Alpine, Gentoo... Poetteringware only won on the distros selling support contracts. "Fixing" what wasn't broken is great for those businesses.
In case you never read it, https://web.mit.edu/~simsong/www/ugh.pdf
Hardly the piece of OS beauty that gets praised about FOSS circles.