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Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by jwesley on Thursday February 05, 2009 @03:37PM (#468649)
Anyone else feel the site is getting too self referential? I noticed the lag as well, but is this worthy of a devoted thread taking up space on the first page?

The recent surge in self referential threads has felt Reddit-esque.

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by mattmaroon on Thursday February 05, 2009 @03:42PM (#468663)
I completely agree. It's been getting that way for too long, and it's half the reason I check the site less frequently lately. I don't need to see a Happy New Year post here. It's cliche and unnecessary.

Polls about which text editor people use are the same, because they're just going to be repeated by newbies every few months.

My opinion is that self-posts should be on a separate page, by themselves.

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by profgubler on Thursday February 05, 2009 @03:50PM (#468690)
I think the reason you get so many repeated posts from newbies, is that HN does not have a search feature. I think simplly adding a google search to HN would likely cut down on this issue.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by zain on Thursday February 05, 2009 @04:00PM (#468723)
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by rw on Thursday February 05, 2009 @04:37PM (#468772)
SearchYC is often really slow, at least for me. The page loading times are on the order of tens of seconds. HN needs its own minimalist search engine designed to search for submissions.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by parenthesis on Thursday February 05, 2009 @05:43PM (#468909)
I do find it very useful, though. I hope the guys behind it will get around to making it faster some time.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by chengmi on Thursday February 05, 2009 @07:31PM (#469078)
I'm working on a solution for this, but ultimately it comes down to hosting costs. SearchYC is currently hosted on a cheap-ish virtual server whose costs come out of my pocket each month. I can't justify spending more money on this project, given my personal financial constraints.

Traffic has been steadily increasing, and quite simply, the system can't handle the load at peak usage. I am, however, working to resolve some of these issues, but it may still be awhile before you see any improvements.

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by mhartl on Thursday February 05, 2009 @05:07PM (#468831)
Indeed. Unfortunately, though I know about searchyc (because I've been around here forever), it's not very discoverable, so newbies haven't a chance. There is not, as far as I can tell, a single link to it in the HN menus.

Incidentally, Paul was working on search around this time last year. I wonder what happened to that.

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by pmjordan on Thursday February 05, 2009 @07:27PM (#469068)
Or google with site:news.ycombinator.com in the query.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by pg on Thursday February 05, 2009 @08:02PM (#469109)
Try clicking on the search icon at the bottom of the page next to the CO2Stats badge.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by wheels on Thursday February 05, 2009 @05:03PM (#468822)
I did add something to the feature request page to this effect:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468256

Also, for what it's worth, I've been flagging most of these posts as they aren't intellectually stimulating and are almost as meta as this comment thread. :-) (Doesn't bother me in comments, but 4 out of 5 top stories being about Hacker News is dumb.)

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by defied on Thursday February 05, 2009 @05:13PM (#468850)
Agreed. Please make a separate page for the 'Ask HN' posts and keep the main page just for relevant news stories. Right now too many 'Ask HN' posts keep popping up.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by nihilocrat on Thursday February 05, 2009 @03:51PM (#468693)
There's been a sort of strange convergence of a lot of "Ask HN" threads today. I don't really like it, but I honestly think it could be a coincidence, or more likely, the self-referential nature of the orange-related threads have made everyone think about the quality of the karma system and the community as a whole.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by kmt on Thursday February 05, 2009 @03:50PM (#468688)
How else are you going to report it publicly so that everyone can share their experience?

Also, perhaps there's something to learn from the issue, in other words it's relevant (it's both hacker and news)

Otherwise, yes, I agree: this is meta news.

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by pg on Thursday February 05, 2009 @07:54PM (#469100)
Fortunately there's a setting for this:

(= nourl-factor* .1)

Better now?

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by wheels on Thursday February 05, 2009 @08:01PM (#469106)
Perhaps one tweak -- links back to news.ycombinator.com are weighted the same?
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by ajkirwin on Thursday February 05, 2009 @08:04PM (#469115)
Please tell me that you seriously didn't just make it so that news articles without a link have 10% of the weight of news articles w/links.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by pg on Thursday February 05, 2009 @08:09PM (#469126)
Yep! They had 60% before. The optimal answer is probably somewhere between the two.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by michaelneale on Thursday February 05, 2009 @06:41PM (#469003)
In general I agree - but for this specific issue I think it is valid. The performance of late has been terribly, about 40% of the time in my 20 minute window I have to access it are failed responses - so I am not checking back less and less.

I am not sure what else we are supposed to to - email pg and complain about its slowness ?? ;)

Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by jonursenbach on Thursday February 05, 2009 @03:48PM (#468683)
This IS a message board.
Re:Ask HN: Is HN slow for you lately? Or even not responding? by wheels on Thursday February 05, 2009 @04:56PM (#468812)
A month ago it was a news site. I'd prefer things to go back.

Incidentally, I did submit that as a feature request:

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468256