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Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by _heimdall on Monday February 02, 2026 @07:33AM (#46855246)
It seems like a failure in vision from leadership rather than a failure in governance. My understanding is that the company was told from the very top to put AI everywhere and that's exactly what they did.
Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by hubertdinsk on Monday February 02, 2026 @07:45AM (#46855368)
Why not both?

Where I work, there have been a lot of pushback where that BS doesn't make a lick of sense (the crown jewel of BS request atm: "let's put AI in the bootloader").

Good governance "should" also mean that those kinds of pushback are encouraged.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by Eddy_Viscosity2 on Monday February 02, 2026 @08:13AM (#46855662)
I imagine it went like this:

CEO: Put AI everywhere/

Engineering Staff: There's a lot of places where it doesn't make sense to do this.

CEO: Do it or find somewhere else to work.

The problem of pushback at the lower levels is that it is completely ineffective when the top levels are set on something.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by malfist on Monday February 02, 2026 @09:53AM (#46856700)
As a point of data for your statement, Jassy has repeatedly said that teams that have higher AI adoption are safe from layoffs. Use AI or lose your job is the blunt message
Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by ryandrake on Monday February 02, 2026 @12:27PM (#46858615)
What a wild business metric. Apparently not measuring productivity, profit, or even vague "impact." Just "AI adoption." Imagine your boss said that your job was safe if you switched over to using Python instead of whatever language you're currently developing in.
Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by malfist on Monday February 02, 2026 @12:51PM (#46858908)
For sure, my org adopted KPIs for 95% AI usage measured weekly, and it was reviewed. Not 95% rolling weekly average, 95% each and every single week. I personally witness managers being called out why their team of 8 one week suddenly had only 7 people using AI that week. Take a vacation and your manager had to answer for it. Use an AI tool that they couldn't track, well, your manager had to answer for that too and probably had to harass you to use a measurable tool.

It was complete nonsense. Wound up leaving, partly over it. Nobody wanted to hear the emporor had no clothes and it made more sense to get out before that made my a layoff or URA target.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by anal_reactor on Monday February 02, 2026 @10:15AM (#46856933)
Something I've noticed is that companies don't really promote intelligent people up the chain of command. Socialism failed because it was a less effective economic system than capitalism, and lots of its issues are neatly replicated within capitalist companies:

- having friends is more important than making output, which means that people above certain level just play politics instead of actually managing the company

- managers who miss targets get more people assigned which makes them climb the hierarchy, which means all levels below top level have the incentive to be inefficient

- saying "no" to the ruling party, no matter how stupid the idea is, is the second-easiest way to get replaced. The easiest is to offend the wrong person

- planning periods misaligned with the economic reality

An intelligent person will either be optimized out of the system, or will learn how to game it to their own advantage.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by pjmlp on Monday February 02, 2026 @11:21AM (#46857799)
See recent discussion on why senior devs left projects crash.

It is easier to let it all crash and burn, and try to leave with less scars as possible than try to fight the system.

You get to lose more for the visibility to fight back than letting it go down in flames.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by _heimdall on Monday February 02, 2026 @09:19AM (#46856333)
It could have been both for sure. I'm just going off the public info here though and it doesn't seem like the employees failed to do what they were told to do.

In a company as large as MS, I'd never really expect a culture of encouraging pushback from below. They'd just never get anything done and the team culture and morale would likely end up in the tank.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by hubertdinsk on Monday February 02, 2026 @12:28PM (#46858627)
No no I agree with you.

It's just that I don't vibe with the sentiment that company culture are a one-way street from management.

Anyway I do see that after a while the people who would have said no would all be gone. So maybe this is not the start of the decline but actually closer to the end of Microslop.

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by conartist6 on Monday February 02, 2026 @07:50AM (#46855425)
And there's no real evidence of any kind that they positive motivating vision for them other than AI right now.

Sure they want to hide their embarrassment at this second, but I'm not hearing any vision for a future where they make a product designed for someone like me. They don't want me anyore and they've made that quite clear through generations of hostile decisions

Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by lelanthran on Monday February 02, 2026 @08:20AM (#46855722)
They might be getting the order to RIP it out because Of the cost - autocompleting peoples word documents still uses tokens which, last time I checked, were anything but cheap.
Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by vjvjvjvjghv on Monday February 02, 2026 @10:17AM (#46856958)
I think it’s governance. It can make sense to ask to put AI into everything. But then you also need to check it’s done in a useful way. MS leadership seems to have skipped this step.
Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by _heimdall on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @06:25AM (#46869563)
Even there it could be a leadership vision issue. From the outside we don't know whether leadership didn't try the end product or if they did and were actually fine with it thinking that's what customers would want.
Re:Microsoft is walking back Windows 11's AI overload by albedoa on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @10:43PM (#46895420)
Wait where did you go little boy?