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Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by bruceboughton on Monday October 22, 2012 @07:21AM (#4682633)
Every week there is a story in the UK press about how company A is not paying tax in the UK. This is not unique to Amazon.

Vodafone, Amazon, Starbucks, Google, Apple, ...

Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by skywalk on Monday October 22, 2012 @10:31AM (#4683290)
Most are setup to use a double irish scheme, and usually throw in the dutch sandwich: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_sandwich
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by PeterisP on Monday October 22, 2012 @12:49PM (#4684050)
These schemes are relevant to corporate income tax, which can be manipulated and avoided. VAT applies to pretty much all revenue regardless of how you structure your company ownership structure.
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by Tyrannosaurs on Monday October 22, 2012 @08:51AM (#4682885)
Reminds me of the nice Starbucks joke from last week:

I like my women like I like my coffee - paying tax on their income in the UK.

Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by DanBC on Monday October 22, 2012 @07:53AM (#4682705)
There's a twist in asking customers to pay 20%, and taking that from the authors, and then (according to GP) not paying the 20% in England but paying just 3% in some other country.
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by tommorris on Monday October 22, 2012 @12:21PM (#4683866)
VAT is not the same as corporation tax.

In the UK, Amazon is being accused of not paying the full amount of corporation tax they ought to be paying.

Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by jonno on Monday October 22, 2012 @09:53AM (#4683093)
This sounds fraudulent.
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by pja on Monday October 22, 2012 @11:09AM (#4683450)
You can be quite sure that the contract is not phrased in such a way that Amazon is required to pay 20% VAT on the ebooks in question to the UK government.

Is it sleazy as all getout? Yup, absolutely: but it's not illegal. Companies pull this kind of bait and switch all the time when they think they can get away with it. Remember when Microsoft bought the original Internet Explorer codebase in return for the company in question receiving a cut of the profits and then gave it away for free? How they must have laughed about that one back at MS HQ...

In reality, the publishers handed Amazon a near monopoly on ebook sales by their own short-sightedness and now Amazon is turning the thumbscrews to see how much they're actually prepared to cough up. The games with VAT in the contract are just part and parcel of that.

Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by shinratdr on Tuesday October 23, 2012 @04:29AM (#4687094)
> How they must have laughed about that one back at MS HQ...

Until they lost the lawsuit...

http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/news2/microsoft-and-spyg...

Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by DanBC on Monday October 22, 2012 @10:05AM (#4683157)
Vodaphone's shenanigans so they only paid £1.2bn of the estimated £6bn total tax bill also sounds well dodgy.
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by rmc on Monday October 22, 2012 @08:31AM (#4682831)
It's funny that then people give out about small countries that have lower coporation tax (e.g. Ireland). If companies in "non-low-tax" countries like UK don't pay any tax, why give out to low-tax countries?
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by wyclif on Monday October 22, 2012 @07:48AM (#4682695)
Not that taxes are out of control in the UK or anything...
Re:Outlawed by Amazon DRM by Tyrannosaurs on Monday October 22, 2012 @08:38AM (#4682845)
Elaborate please?