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Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by 1970-01-01 on Thursday January 29, 2026 @02:39PM (#46815435)
It wasn't the first modern EV?
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by burnte on Thursday January 29, 2026 @03:53PM (#46816431)
Doesn't matter if it was or wasn't, it was a failure that GM never followed up with. Why it was a failure is also irrelevant, because whether you feel it was a technical failure or killed by GM, GM never did anything with the project or knowledge. Effectively it was a curiosity.
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by 1970-01-01 on Thursday January 29, 2026 @05:17PM (#46817555)
If GM killed it to keep it from succeeding, then there is massive precedent to never reuse the tech. In fact, their NiMH battery patents were sold to Texaco/Chevron who held them close and never let anyone use them. From that point, they couldn't follow-up without dumping even more cash into it, effectively burying it. Until new lithium battery tech matured, there was no way to do it again.
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by mrguyorama on Thursday January 29, 2026 @07:41PM (#46819126)
>If GM killed it to keep it from succeeding

They didn't, and this is just absurd.

Not only were electric cars available since the very beginning of cars, but they've always been available as niche options. There are tens of electric cars that postdate the EV1 and predate the Tesla. Do you even know their names?

We have stupidly cheap gas. An electric car has only ever been a curiosity for America. Even now, the primary driver of people buying electric cars is ideological, and a mild convenience of never having to go to a gas station.

Pre-lithium battery electric cars are a huge hassle, for very little gain, even outside the US. The history of cars is a global one, and no amount of conspiracy theory about GM can counter the fact that nobody else made electric cars either, even in places with drastically more expensive and unreliable gasoline.

They have always been a novelty, like hydrogen and LPG and compressed gas engines.

Hybrids were the closest anyone got to making older battery chemistries meaningful for car-style transportation, and even that was extremely limited.

Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by expedition32 on Friday January 30, 2026 @09:00AM (#46824465)
I agree with this.

Cheap gas, car culture and the incredibly long distances makes America a very different place from the urban centres of the Netherlands, China and Korea.

Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by burnte on Friday January 30, 2026 @05:40PM (#46830959)
Exactly. The battery tech the EV1 had was never going to be a big seller in the US.
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by nextaccountic on Saturday January 31, 2026 @11:34PM (#46843642)
About compressed gas, they have so much cheaper fuel that they are the norm here in Brazil for Uber drivers. So, not a novelty

Brazil also pioneered flex engines that work with either alcohol and gasoline, and gasoline in Brazil is sold with high alcohol content

Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by lallysingh on Thursday January 29, 2026 @03:02PM (#46815776)
GM didn't sell EVs for years after releasing the EV1. They didn't get any market advantage from the EV1 because they left the market after, for a long time.
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by 1970-01-01 on Thursday January 29, 2026 @03:05PM (#46815815)
We are in complete agreement here. They wasted their lead.
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by NetMageSCW on Thursday January 29, 2026 @03:49PM (#46816383)
They didn’t have a lead. It’s like saying the DC-X was ahead in propulsive landing over F9, or the LG Prada had a lead over the iPhone.

Being first isn’t enough to establish a lead. You also have to be in competition, which means selling product.

Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by 1970-01-01 on Thursday January 29, 2026 @04:45PM (#46817089)
It is very widely known that GM held a 7 year head start on every other automaker on manufacturing the modern EV. Several other EVs were sold during it's time in low volume.
Re:Tesla is committing automotive suicide by silotis on Thursday January 29, 2026 @03:05PM (#46815814)
The EV1 was a regulatory anomaly. The tech wasn't there yet for mass market adoption.