Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by direwolf20 on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @01:25PM
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What was the process that made Israel a state? What was there before Israeli state was? Who were the allies of that country?
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Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by nickff on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @01:39PM
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I'd suggest the Wikipedia article as a very good starting point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel#Ancient_Isra...
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by direwolf20 on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @01:52PM
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Did they have states in 1209 BC? I'm pretty sure the modern Israel state is a modern invention, that just happens to take its name from former states. The modern state of Greece isn't the one from Jesus's time either.
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by nickff on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @02:09PM
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Well, if you're only going to count modern states, the only previous one to occupy that area was the Ottoman Empire. After that, there was a British Mandate, but that wasn't a state. Modern states only started after the Treaty of Westphalia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_of_Westphalia
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by direwolf20 on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @03:42PM
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Does the modern Israel state have continuity from the Ottoman empire?
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by nickff on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @03:56PM
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That really depends on what you mean by ‘continuity’ and your view of the British Mandate. I could imagine the case being made either way.
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document...
by direwolf20 on Wednesday January 28, 2026 @06:08AM
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I'll give you a hint: the successor to this part of the Ottoman Empire was named Palestine.