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Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by gryzzly on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @05:16AM (#46777934)
No one who is sane is saying that. IDF is saying – we killed 40.000 combatants who were hiding in ciivilan infrastructure, so unfortunately 1:1 civilian deaths happened, becaue of the terrorist urban warfare tactics hamas and palestinian islamic jihad are using.
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by lukan on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @06:31AM (#46778614)
Except of course, the IDF high command officially gave the order to "give up all restraint".
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by gryzzly on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @08:15AM (#46779537)
were you serving in the last two years and received this order? none of my friends or family have.
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Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by kakacik on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:06AM (#46780075)
@mods this is unacceptable behavior (but such threads are full of this), blind fanatics on both sides
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by lukan on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:11AM (#46780145)
Flag and move on (if you can, I feel your frustration). @mods does not notify anyone.
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Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:09AM (#46780102)
Said home was forcefully taken though. Legally / internationally Israel was allotted certain land (without the inhabitants getting a say) after WW2, but they quickly decided (on their own) that it wasn't enough and they started invading / colonizing land outside of what they were given.

If you're wondering why palestinians are angry, there's your answer.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by idop on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:39AM (#46780554)
> Said home was forcefully taken though.

Prove it.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by neoromantique on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:13AM (#46780167)
>but they quickly decided (on their own) that it wasn't enough and they started invading

And the 6 Arab armies were just hanging around in there, yeah?

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by lukan on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @08:46AM (#46779837)
https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203447

"On 9 October 2023, Mr Yoav Gallant, Defence Minister of Israel, announced that he had ordered a “complete siege” of Gaza City and that there would be “no electricity, no food, no fuel” and that “everything [was] closed”. On the following day, Minister Gallant stated, speaking to Israeli troops on the Gaza border: “I have released all restraints . . . You saw what we are fighting against. We are fighting human animals. This is the ISIS of Gaza. This is what we are fighting against . . . Gaza won’t return to what it was before. There will be no Hamas. We will eliminate everything. If it doesn’t take one day, it will take a week, it will take weeks or even months, we will reach all places.”

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by kvgr on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:55AM (#46780786)
No thing wrong with. They fought Hamas.
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by lukan on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:56AM (#46780811)
Are also all the children in Gaza Hamas? Even the babies?
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by kvgr on Tuesday February 10, 2026 @06:44AM (#46958416)
Yes, it is horrible. But what is the alternative? Does Hamas discriminate where do their rockets go? Lets stop all the wars and live in peace, i really wish that. But hamas does not want it, and it holds gaza as a hostage.
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by gryzzly on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @08:52AM (#46779894)
Do you see how it refers to Hamas? What should this quote prove? To me it proves that high command gives fighters motivational speeches, nothing else.

Also, the measures concluded in the end of the document are about ensuring this was a motivational speech for soldiers that are going to fight Hamas terrorists, not a vague statement.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by lukan on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:11AM (#46780136)
Do you also believe all people in Gaza are Hamas?

If not, I don't see him making that distinction, by stating to block all food from entering Gaza and dropping all restraints for attacking Hamas.

I did not had he impression there ever were restraints when dealing with Hamas. So restraints were always for bystanders. Which were dropped.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by suburban_strike on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @12:27PM (#46783193)
There's no sense asking questions you already know the answer to. Of course those babies are Hamas. If they aren't in baby boot camp right now, they will be 20 years from now. Until then they use their mothers as human shields, so the women have to die as well, obviously. They were breastfeeding Hamas combatants in violation of sanctions.

1 Samuel 15:3 was always the official policy; they are no longer pretending otherwise because they don't have to. Nobody's going to stop them and for anyone that tries, there's the Samson Option.

A more-fun line of questioning that outs the demons among us is asking what someone would do if they had access to a time machine. One particular demographic will consistently and proudly tell you they'd use it to go back in time and murder one specific infant. Not teenager, not young adult--given free range of choice they always opt to kill their opponent at their most helpless, as an infant that cannot fight back--which says all it needs to.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by MSFT_Edging on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @08:47AM (#46779856)
Members of the IDF were regularly posting open admissions and even videos of actual war crimes to social media. It was so common, the IDF had to beg them numerous times to stop.

This was the primary method for groups like the Hind Rajab foundation, to locate these war criminals while they were vacationing in other countries to have them arrested on war crime charges.

They didn't need orders, they simply were never told no.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by gryzzly on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @08:56AM (#46779945)
Aha, so you are saying israelis don’t need orders to have no restraints to commit war crimes. It’s like an innate thing right? This is by-the-book demonisation of a people. Part of standard definition of antisemitism.

No need to argue with people who hate.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by MSFT_Edging on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @09:10AM (#46780125)
> saying israelis

No, the IDF has been built up as an occupation force. Therefore, they do occupation force things, like shoot through fences at children, destroy ambulances, post on instagram "I am blowing up this block of civilian housing in revenge for my friend" which is two explicit war-crimes.

I think Israel as a nation has to contend with the level of violence they have permitted to happen to those who they have dehumanized as they've continued to maintain an apartheid state, seize land, and kill without any kind of accountability.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by chimprich on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @10:53AM (#46781629)
> becaue of the terrorist urban warfare tactics hamas and palestinian islamic jihad are using

This is ridiculous.

I don't want to be a Hamas apologist; they're certainly brutally cynical enough to use civilians as shields, but in the case of Gaza, what else would you expect them to do?

Urban areas are strong defensive structures, and 75% of Gaza is urban. Where else would you expect them to fight? It would be unrealistic to expect Hamas to take on the IDF in open farmland so they could be annihilated by Israeli air power.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by hersko on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @11:16AM (#46781979)
So they started a war they knew would cause mass death to their civilian population. How is that not the same thing?
Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by chimprich on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @12:33PM (#46783277)
You can't give all the blame for the deaths to Hamas. They gave Israel a monstrous provocation, but the decision to kill tens of thousands of civilians, and collective punishment by denial of food, water and medical care was the Israeli government's.

If party A is using a human shield, and party B decides to kill the human shield to get revenge on party A, then who is culpable for the death? I don't think it's an entirely obvious answer. I don't think anyone who can easily and automatically put all the blame on party A or B has really thought it through.

Re:Over 36,500 killed in Iran's deadliest massacre, document... by hersko on Tuesday January 27, 2026 @04:04PM (#46786704)
This is not revenge, this is war. Until Hamas surrenders (they haven't) they are responsible for the civilian deaths.